* Re: [Orgmode] POLL: the 40 variables project
2009-01-29 8:49 Carsten Dominik
@ 2014-01-17 20:55 ` Manish
2014-01-19 15:54 ` Bastien
2014-04-30 15:29 ` Sungmin
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From: Manish @ 2014-01-17 20:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Carsten Dominik; +Cc: emacs org-mode mailing list
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 3:49 AM, Carsten Dominik wrote:
> Hi,
>
> yesterday I did this command in my org-mode git repo:
>
> grep defcustom lisp/*el |wc -l
>
> and got 378 as an answer. 378 user-customizable variables,
> no kidding.
>
It's been almost 5 years since that last check and about time to do it
again. And it's even crazier now. :)
manishsharma:org-mode/ (master) $ git --no-pager log
--pretty=format:'%aD %H' -1 Fri, 17 Jan 2014
12:45:21 +0100 bf304c34854e2f07001e8180508f0c833d17307f%
manishsharma:org-mode/ (master) $ grep defcustom lisp/*el |wc -l
808
A big thanks to everyone.
--Manish
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* Re: [Orgmode] POLL: the 40 variables project
2014-01-17 20:55 ` [Orgmode] " Manish
@ 2014-01-19 15:54 ` Bastien
2014-01-20 2:18 ` M
2014-01-20 7:05 ` henry atting
2014-04-30 15:29 ` Sungmin
1 sibling, 2 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Bastien @ 2014-01-19 15:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Manish; +Cc: emacs org-mode mailing list, Carsten Dominik
Manish <mailtomanish.sharma@gmail.com> writes:
> manishsharma:org-mode/ (master) $ grep defcustom lisp/*el |wc -l
> 808
Ouch. That's nearly half of the 1792 Emacs options!
It certainly says something, but I don't know what :)
--
Bastien
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* Re: [Orgmode] POLL: the 40 variables project
2014-01-19 15:54 ` Bastien
@ 2014-01-20 2:18 ` M
2014-01-20 11:17 ` Bastien
2014-01-20 7:05 ` henry atting
1 sibling, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: M @ 2014-01-20 2:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs orgmode-mailinglist; +Cc: Bastien
> Von: Bastien <bzg@gnu.org>
> Datum: Sun, 19 Jan 2014 16:54:55 +0100
> An: Manish <mailtomanish.sharma@gmail.com>
> Cc: emacs org-mode mailing list <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>, Carsten Dominik
> <dominik@science.uva.nl>
> Betreff: Re: [O] [Orgmode] POLL: the 40 variables project
>
> Manish <mailtomanish.sharma@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> manishsharma:org-mode/ (master) $ grep defcustom lisp/*el |wc -l
>> 808
>
> Ouch. That's nearly half of the 1792 Emacs options!
>
> It certainly says something, but I don't know what :)
>
> --
> Bastien
>
Well, you can use that for marketing:
it's the best proof, that it is not a lie, if you call org-mode "highly
configurable"
:-)
Martin
p.s. for a new user, the large choice of options can really be quite
confusing
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* Re: [Orgmode] POLL: the 40 variables project
2014-01-19 15:54 ` Bastien
2014-01-20 2:18 ` M
@ 2014-01-20 7:05 ` henry atting
2014-01-20 11:16 ` Bastien
1 sibling, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: henry atting @ 2014-01-20 7:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
> Manish <mailtomanish.sharma@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> manishsharma:org-mode/ (master) $ grep defcustom lisp/*el |wc -l
>> 808
>
> Ouch. That's nearly half of the 1792 Emacs options!
>
> It certainly says something, but I don't know what :)
Maybe it says it's still a long way to go ;)
cd gnus_git && grep defcustom lisp/*.el | wc -l
1204
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* Re: [Orgmode] POLL: the 40 variables project
2014-01-20 7:05 ` henry atting
@ 2014-01-20 11:16 ` Bastien
0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Bastien @ 2014-01-20 11:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: henry atting; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
henry atting<snd@online.de> writes:
> Maybe it says it's still a long way to go ;)
>
> cd gnus_git && grep defcustom lisp/*.el | wc -l
>
> 1204
Mhhh... that's somehow comforting (but I don't know how!)
--
Bastien
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* Re: [Orgmode] POLL: the 40 variables project
2014-01-20 2:18 ` M
@ 2014-01-20 11:17 ` Bastien
2014-01-20 11:38 ` Rainer M Krug
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From: Bastien @ 2014-01-20 11:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: M; +Cc: emacs orgmode-mailinglist
M <Elwood151@web.de> writes:
> p.s. for a new user, the large choice of options can really be quite
> confusing
Indeed. We always need more tutorials and more structure in Worg.
I may help with a fresh tutorial at some point, but I need time.
--
Bastien
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* Re: [Orgmode] POLL: the 40 variables project
2014-01-20 11:17 ` Bastien
@ 2014-01-20 11:38 ` Rainer M Krug
2014-01-20 11:47 ` Bastien
2014-01-20 17:07 ` Eric S Fraga
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From: Rainer M Krug @ 2014-01-20 11:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Bastien, M; +Cc: emacs orgmode-mailinglist
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> M <Elwood151@web.de> writes:
>
>> p.s. for a new user, the large choice of options can really be
>> quite confusing
>
> Indeed. We always need more tutorials and more structure in Worg.
True. But Is there a table with all the variables, in the form of:
| Variable | *short* description | link to manual |
This might be useful, especially as a dynamic web page, where one can
filter the variables - e.g. only babel variables dealing with "session".
Cheers,
Rainer
>
> I may help with a fresh tutorial at some point, but I need time.
>
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* Re: [Orgmode] POLL: the 40 variables project
2014-01-20 11:38 ` Rainer M Krug
@ 2014-01-20 11:47 ` Bastien
2014-01-20 17:07 ` Eric S Fraga
1 sibling, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Bastien @ 2014-01-20 11:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Rainer M Krug; +Cc: M, emacs orgmode-mailinglist
Rainer M Krug <Rainer@krugs.de> writes:
> True. But Is there a table with all the variables, in the form of:
>
> | Variable | *short* description | link to manual |
Not exactly this, but there is http://orgmode.org/worg/doc.html
(This is for "options", i.e. user variables, not all variables.)
> This might be useful, especially as a dynamic web page, where one can
> filter the variables - e.g. only babel variables dealing with "session".
If you want to make the current page more dynamic (maybe by testing if
INFOJS produces something nice?), please go ahead!
--
Bastien
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* Re: [Orgmode] POLL: the 40 variables project
2014-01-20 11:38 ` Rainer M Krug
2014-01-20 11:47 ` Bastien
@ 2014-01-20 17:07 ` Eric S Fraga
1 sibling, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Eric S Fraga @ 2014-01-20 17:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Rainer M Krug; +Cc: Bastien, M, emacs orgmode-mailinglist
Rainer M Krug <Rainer@krugs.de> writes:
[...]
> True. But Is there a table with all the variables, in the form of:
>
> | Variable | *short* description | link to manual |
No table but "M-x customize-group RET org RET" gives all user
customisable variables, many (most? all?) grouped logically as well.
Okay, maybe emacs's customisation mode is not the most intuitive to a
newbie but it does the job admirably in typical emacs function... in my
opinion. I often use this mode to explore new packages, and old ones
when I've forgotten how to use them.
--
: Eric S Fraga (0xFFFCF67D), Emacs 24.3.1, Org release_8.2.4-322-gece429
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* Re: [Orgmode] POLL: the 40 variables project
2014-01-17 20:55 ` [Orgmode] " Manish
2014-01-19 15:54 ` Bastien
@ 2014-04-30 15:29 ` Sungmin
2014-04-30 15:50 ` Eric S Fraga
1 sibling, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Sungmin @ 2014-04-30 15:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Manish <mailtomanish.sharma <at> gmail.com> writes:
>
> On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 3:49 AM, Carsten Dominik wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > yesterday I did this command in my org-mode git repo:
> >
> > grep defcustom lisp/*el |wc -l
> >
> > and got 378 as an answer. 378 user-customizable variables,
> > no kidding.
> >
>
> It's been almost 5 years since that last check and about time to do it
> again. And it's even crazier now. :)
>
> manishsharma:org-mode/ (master) $ git --no-pager log
> --pretty=format:'%aD %H' -1 Fri, 17 Jan 2014
> 12:45:21 +0100 bf304c34854e2f07001e8180508f0c833d17307f%
>
> manishsharma:org-mode/ (master) $ grep defcustom lisp/*el |wc -l
> 808
>
> A big thanks to everyone.
>
> --Manish
>
>
808 options. That is Scary, and daunting and amazing.
Any possibility to get a update on the survey on which configuration are in
use as well?
http://orgmode.org/worg/org-configs/org-customization-survey.html contains
excellent information. But how have things evolved?
I have just started to scratch on the surface of orgmode. Maybe 8 months of
usage. For me it would help me understand what I should look into next.
Thank you every one for all of your contributions.
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* Re: [Orgmode] POLL: the 40 variables project
2014-04-30 15:29 ` Sungmin
@ 2014-04-30 15:50 ` Eric S Fraga
0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Eric S Fraga @ 2014-04-30 15:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Sungmin; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
On Wednesday, 30 Apr 2014 at 15:29, Sungmin wrote:
[...]
> 808 options. That is Scary, and daunting and amazing.
>
> I have just started to scratch on the surface of orgmode. Maybe 8 months of
> usage. For me it would help me understand what I should look into next.
Although I am not in general a big fan of emacs's customize feature, it
can be very useful for exploring options in packages. I would suggest
you do
M-x customize-group RET org RET
and browse...
--
: Eric S Fraga (0xFFFCF67D), Emacs 24.4.50.2, Org release_8.2.6-923-g233c11
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* Re: [Orgmode] POLL: the 40 variables project
@ 2014-04-30 17:29 Shin Sungmin
2014-05-01 21:23 ` Nick Dokos
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From: Shin Sungmin @ 2014-04-30 17:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eric S Fraga; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
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* Re: [Orgmode] POLL: the 40 variables project
2014-04-30 17:29 [Orgmode] POLL: the 40 variables project Shin Sungmin
@ 2014-05-01 21:23 ` Nick Dokos
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From: Nick Dokos @ 2014-05-01 21:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
"Shin Sungmin" <sungsongsang@daum.net> writes:
> Well, I will just look through the old survey
> (http://orgmode.org/worg/org-configs/org-customization-survey.html) I
> am sure that will give a ton of ideas as well.
>
Beware however that some variable names (in particular, export-related
ones) were changed in org 8.x, whereas the survey is for an earlier
version (IIRC).
Nick
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