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* Re: [Orgmode] POLL: the 40 variables project
@ 2014-04-30 17:29 Shin Sungmin
  2014-05-01 21:23 ` Nick Dokos
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From: Shin Sungmin @ 2014-04-30 17:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eric S Fraga; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

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* Re: [Orgmode] POLL: the 40 variables project
  2014-04-30 17:29 [Orgmode] POLL: the 40 variables project Shin Sungmin
@ 2014-05-01 21:23 ` Nick Dokos
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Nick Dokos @ 2014-05-01 21:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

"Shin Sungmin" <sungsongsang@daum.net> writes:

> Well, I will just look through the old survey
> (http://orgmode.org/worg/org-configs/org-customization-survey.html) I
> am sure that will give a ton of ideas as well.
>

Beware however that some variable names (in particular, export-related
ones) were changed in org 8.x, whereas the survey is for an earlier
version (IIRC).

Nick

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* Re: [Orgmode] POLL: the 40 variables project
  2014-04-30 15:29   ` Sungmin
@ 2014-04-30 15:50     ` Eric S Fraga
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Eric S Fraga @ 2014-04-30 15:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Sungmin; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

On Wednesday, 30 Apr 2014 at 15:29, Sungmin wrote:

[...]

> 808 options. That is Scary, and daunting and amazing. 
>
> I have just started to scratch on the surface of orgmode. Maybe 8 months of 
> usage. For me it would help me understand what I should look into next.

Although I am not in general a big fan of emacs's customize feature, it
can be very useful for exploring options in packages.  I would suggest
you do

  M-x customize-group RET org RET

and browse...

-- 
: Eric S Fraga (0xFFFCF67D), Emacs 24.4.50.2, Org release_8.2.6-923-g233c11

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* Re: [Orgmode] POLL: the 40 variables project
  2014-01-17 20:55 ` [Orgmode] " Manish
  2014-01-19 15:54   ` Bastien
@ 2014-04-30 15:29   ` Sungmin
  2014-04-30 15:50     ` Eric S Fraga
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Sungmin @ 2014-04-30 15:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

Manish <mailtomanish.sharma <at> gmail.com> writes:

> 
> On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 3:49 AM, Carsten Dominik wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > yesterday I did this command in my org-mode git repo:
> >
> >   grep defcustom lisp/*el |wc -l
> >
> > and got 378 as an answer.  378 user-customizable variables,
> > no kidding.
> >
> 
> It's been almost 5 years since that last check and about time to do it
> again.  And it's even crazier now. :)
> 
> manishsharma:org-mode/ (master) $ git --no-pager log
> --pretty=format:'%aD %H' -1                       Fri, 17 Jan 2014
> 12:45:21 +0100 bf304c34854e2f07001e8180508f0c833d17307f%
> 
> manishsharma:org-mode/ (master) $ grep defcustom lisp/*el |wc -l
>      808
> 
> A big thanks to everyone.
> 
> --Manish
> 
> 

808 options. That is Scary, and daunting and amazing. 
Any possibility to get a update on the survey on which configuration are in 
use as well? 
http://orgmode.org/worg/org-configs/org-customization-survey.html contains 
excellent information. But how have things evolved?

I have just started to scratch on the surface of orgmode. Maybe 8 months of 
usage. For me it would help me understand what I should look into next.

Thank you every one for all of your contributions.

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* Re: [Orgmode] POLL: the 40 variables project
  2014-01-20 11:38         ` Rainer M Krug
  2014-01-20 11:47           ` Bastien
@ 2014-01-20 17:07           ` Eric S Fraga
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Eric S Fraga @ 2014-01-20 17:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Rainer M Krug; +Cc: Bastien, M, emacs orgmode-mailinglist

Rainer M Krug <Rainer@krugs.de> writes:

[...]

> True. But Is there a table with all the variables, in the form of:
>
> | Variable | *short* description | link to manual |

No table but "M-x customize-group RET org RET" gives all user
customisable variables, many (most? all?) grouped logically as well. 

Okay, maybe emacs's customisation mode is not the most intuitive to a
newbie but it does the job admirably in typical emacs function... in my
opinion.  I often use this mode to explore new packages, and old ones
when I've forgotten how to use them.

-- 
: Eric S Fraga (0xFFFCF67D), Emacs 24.3.1, Org release_8.2.4-322-gece429

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* Re: [Orgmode] POLL: the 40 variables project
  2014-01-20 11:38         ` Rainer M Krug
@ 2014-01-20 11:47           ` Bastien
  2014-01-20 17:07           ` Eric S Fraga
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Bastien @ 2014-01-20 11:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Rainer M Krug; +Cc: M, emacs orgmode-mailinglist

Rainer M Krug <Rainer@krugs.de> writes:

> True. But Is there a table with all the variables, in the form of:
>
> | Variable | *short* description | link to manual |

Not exactly this, but there is http://orgmode.org/worg/doc.html

(This is for "options", i.e. user variables, not all variables.)

> This might be useful, especially as a dynamic web page, where one can
> filter the variables - e.g. only babel variables dealing with "session".

If you want to make the current page more dynamic (maybe by testing if
INFOJS produces something nice?), please go ahead!

-- 
 Bastien

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* Re: [Orgmode] POLL: the 40 variables project
  2014-01-20 11:17       ` Bastien
@ 2014-01-20 11:38         ` Rainer M Krug
  2014-01-20 11:47           ` Bastien
  2014-01-20 17:07           ` Eric S Fraga
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Rainer M Krug @ 2014-01-20 11:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bastien, M; +Cc: emacs orgmode-mailinglist

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On 01/20/14, 12:17 , Bastien wrote:
> M <Elwood151@web.de> writes:
> 
>> p.s. for a new user, the large choice of options can really be
>> quite confusing
> 
> Indeed.  We always need more tutorials and more structure in Worg.

True. But Is there a table with all the variables, in the form of:

| Variable | *short* description | link to manual |

This might be useful, especially as a dynamic web page, where one can
filter the variables - e.g. only babel variables dealing with "session".

Cheers,

Rainer


> 
> I may help with a fresh tutorial at some point, but I need time.
> 

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Biology, UCT), Dipl. Phys. (Germany)

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* Re: [Orgmode] POLL: the 40 variables project
  2014-01-20  2:18     ` M
@ 2014-01-20 11:17       ` Bastien
  2014-01-20 11:38         ` Rainer M Krug
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Bastien @ 2014-01-20 11:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: M; +Cc: emacs orgmode-mailinglist

M <Elwood151@web.de> writes:

> p.s. for a new user, the large choice of options can really be quite
> confusing

Indeed.  We always need more tutorials and more structure in Worg.

I may help with a fresh tutorial at some point, but I need time.

-- 
 Bastien

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* Re: [Orgmode] POLL: the 40 variables project
  2014-01-20  7:05     ` henry atting
@ 2014-01-20 11:16       ` Bastien
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Bastien @ 2014-01-20 11:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: henry atting; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

henry atting<snd@online.de> writes:

> Maybe it says it's still a long way to go ;)
>
> cd gnus_git && grep defcustom lisp/*.el | wc -l
>
>  1204

Mhhh... that's somehow comforting (but I don't know how!)

-- 
 Bastien

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* Re: [Orgmode] POLL: the 40 variables project
  2014-01-19 15:54   ` Bastien
  2014-01-20  2:18     ` M
@ 2014-01-20  7:05     ` henry atting
  2014-01-20 11:16       ` Bastien
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: henry atting @ 2014-01-20  7:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

> Manish <mailtomanish.sharma@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> manishsharma:org-mode/ (master) $ grep defcustom lisp/*el |wc -l
>>      808
>
> Ouch.  That's nearly half of the 1792 Emacs options!
>
> It certainly says something, but I don't know what :)

Maybe it says it's still a long way to go ;)

cd gnus_git && grep defcustom lisp/*.el | wc -l

 1204

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* Re: [Orgmode] POLL: the 40 variables project
  2014-01-19 15:54   ` Bastien
@ 2014-01-20  2:18     ` M
  2014-01-20 11:17       ` Bastien
  2014-01-20  7:05     ` henry atting
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: M @ 2014-01-20  2:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs orgmode-mailinglist; +Cc: Bastien




> Von: Bastien <bzg@gnu.org>
> Datum: Sun, 19 Jan 2014 16:54:55 +0100
> An: Manish <mailtomanish.sharma@gmail.com>
> Cc: emacs org-mode mailing list <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>, Carsten Dominik
> <dominik@science.uva.nl>
> Betreff: Re: [O] [Orgmode] POLL: the 40 variables project
> 
> Manish <mailtomanish.sharma@gmail.com> writes:
> 
>> manishsharma:org-mode/ (master) $ grep defcustom lisp/*el |wc -l
>>      808
> 
> Ouch.  That's nearly half of the 1792 Emacs options!
> 
> It certainly says something, but I don't know what :)
> 
> -- 
>  Bastien
> 

Well, you can use that for marketing:

it's the best proof, that it is not a lie, if you call org-mode "highly
configurable" 
:-)

Martin



p.s. for a new user, the large choice of options can really be quite
confusing

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* Re: [Orgmode] POLL: the 40 variables project
  2014-01-17 20:55 ` [Orgmode] " Manish
@ 2014-01-19 15:54   ` Bastien
  2014-01-20  2:18     ` M
  2014-01-20  7:05     ` henry atting
  2014-04-30 15:29   ` Sungmin
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Bastien @ 2014-01-19 15:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Manish; +Cc: emacs org-mode mailing list, Carsten Dominik

Manish <mailtomanish.sharma@gmail.com> writes:

> manishsharma:org-mode/ (master) $ grep defcustom lisp/*el |wc -l
>      808

Ouch.  That's nearly half of the 1792 Emacs options!

It certainly says something, but I don't know what :)

-- 
 Bastien

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* Re: [Orgmode] POLL: the 40 variables project
  2009-01-29  8:49 Carsten Dominik
@ 2014-01-17 20:55 ` Manish
  2014-01-19 15:54   ` Bastien
  2014-04-30 15:29   ` Sungmin
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Manish @ 2014-01-17 20:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Carsten Dominik; +Cc: emacs org-mode mailing list

On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 3:49 AM, Carsten Dominik wrote:
> Hi,
>
> yesterday I did this command in my org-mode git repo:
>
>   grep defcustom lisp/*el |wc -l
>
> and got 378 as an answer.  378 user-customizable variables,
> no kidding.
>

It's been almost 5 years since that last check and about time to do it
again.  And it's even crazier now. :)

manishsharma:org-mode/ (master) $ git --no-pager log
--pretty=format:'%aD %H' -1                       Fri, 17 Jan 2014
12:45:21 +0100 bf304c34854e2f07001e8180508f0c833d17307f%

manishsharma:org-mode/ (master) $ grep defcustom lisp/*el |wc -l
     808

A big thanks to everyone.

--Manish

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