From: Suvayu Ali <fatkasuvayu+linux@gmail.com>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Nice blog post - Org-mode in Your Pocket Is a GNU-Shaped Devil
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 14:37:51 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130405123751.GF631@kuru.dyndns-at-home.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86ppy9uswv.fsf@iro.umontreal.ca>
Hey François,
On Fri, Apr 05, 2013 at 07:18:56AM -0400, François Pinard wrote:
> Suvayu Ali <fatkasuvayu+linux@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > For me it is the other way around. I want to couple with Emacs more
> > closely, but Gnus prevents me from doing so. A few gripes follow.
>
> > 1. Emacs is single threaded, so a network interruption while reading my
> > email over IMAP means my emacs server is stuck!
>
> It would be so appealing if Emacs was really using threading for its
> windows. Tom Tromey seems to be making a very courageous attempt at it,
> but is still hitting various problems and walls. I wonder if he will
> succeed at the end.
I'm dying for Emacs to be multi-threaded in the future. Email is just
one task affected by this. My biggest problem is using tramp over
unreliable connections. e.g. I want to edit my remote org files with
the latest and greatest of org on my laptop! I often have to work on
remote machines behind internal gateways (that's 3 ssh hops away!). I
do save my notes/tasks in org files there, but cannot edit them
optimally because emacs on these nodes is some crappy old version.
> > 2. Oh that's easy to solve, use maildirs (sync with OfflineIMAP). That
> > does not work well because Gnus uses its own flags (an example where
> > Gnus actually breaks standards)! There are some hacks around that
> > out in the wild, so let's let it slide.
> > 3. Gnus stores some meta information/cache for maildirs in a .nnmaildir
> > folder *inside* the maildir directory tree!
> > maildir
> > ├── .nnmaildir
> > ├── cur
> > ├── new
> > └── tmp
> > I do not know how, but this supposed meta information or cache takes
> > about 2/3 of disk space as the original maildir! Obviously that is a
> > problem for large mailboxes.
>
> I never really studies IMAP, and use it rather naively, so I take your
> word about Gnus not being straight about it. Sorry to hear that. I've
> not been bitten yet, or maybe I'm just too naive to know.
Ah I think you misunderstood me. My solution above was to move from
IMAP to Maildir so the reliance on a live network connection is gone.
Gnus screws it up when dealing with _Maildir_ flags.
Now back to work and more on topic threads. ;)
Cheers,
--
Suvayu
Open source is the future. It sets us free.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-04-05 12:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-04-04 9:28 Nice blog post - Org-mode in Your Pocket Is a GNU-Shaped Devil Rainer M. Krug
2013-04-04 9:55 ` Russell Adams
2013-04-04 9:59 ` Christian Moe
2013-04-04 10:57 ` Rainer M. Krug
2013-04-04 11:48 ` François Pinard
2013-04-04 12:12 ` Bastien
2013-04-04 16:39 ` Haider Rizvi
2013-04-05 23:10 ` Bastien
2013-04-05 10:59 ` François Pinard
2013-04-04 12:41 ` Rainer M. Krug
2013-04-04 17:41 ` Suvayu Ali
2013-04-05 11:18 ` François Pinard
2013-04-05 12:37 ` Suvayu Ali [this message]
2013-04-05 21:28 ` Gareth Smith
2013-04-05 22:25 ` Eric Schulte
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