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* Repeating tasks with a time period?
@ 2008-11-13 18:51 Oliver Charles
  2008-11-13 19:12 ` Bernt Hansen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Oliver Charles @ 2008-11-13 18:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

Hi,

I'm starting to use org-mode more and more at the moment, and want to
integrate my university schedule into my agenda, instead of
maintaining 2 separate calendars.

Here's an real-world example of what I'd like to do, I'm not sure it's
possible with org-mode though...

I have a CSC243 practical every Tuesday, at 1100-1300. It repeats
weekly, starting on 28/10/2008 and the last one is on 16/12/2008. I
can get it repeating weekly from this date with just a start time, but
cannot work out how to repeat the time region.

Also, is there anyway to stop the repeating event when it gets to that
date? If that's not possible, I don't mind having to go in and
manually remove the event - most changes happen at the end of a term
anyawy.

- Ollie

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* Re: Repeating tasks with a time period?
  2008-11-13 18:51 Repeating tasks with a time period? Oliver Charles
@ 2008-11-13 19:12 ` Bernt Hansen
  2008-11-13 19:24   ` Chris McMahan
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Bernt Hansen @ 2008-11-13 19:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Oliver Charles; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

"Oliver Charles" <oliver.g.charles@googlemail.com> writes:

> I'm starting to use org-mode more and more at the moment, and want to
> integrate my university schedule into my agenda, instead of
> maintaining 2 separate calendars.
>
> Here's an real-world example of what I'd like to do, I'm not sure it's
> possible with org-mode though...
>
> I have a CSC243 practical every Tuesday, at 1100-1300. It repeats
> weekly, starting on 28/10/2008 and the last one is on 16/12/2008. I
> can get it repeating weekly from this date with just a start time, but
> cannot work out how to repeat the time region.

,----[ university.org ]
| * Classes
| ** TODO CSC243 Practical
|    SCHEDULED: <2008-10-28 Tue 11:00-13:00 +1w> 
| 
`----

>
> Also, is there anyway to stop the repeating event when it gets to that
> date? If that's not possible, I don't mind having to go in and
> manually remove the event - most changes happen at the end of a term
> anyawy.

No, repeating items go on forever (as far as I know)

I normally deal with this with a second deadline item to kill the task.
Something like this:

,----[ university.org ]
| * Classes
| ** TODO CSC243 Practical
|    SCHEDULED: <2008-10-28 Tue 11:00-13:00 +1w> 
| *** TODO Task ends
|     DEADLINE: <2008-12-16 Tue -7d>
| 
`----

and then I just remove the +1w from the CSC243 task and mark it and the
deadline task as done.

I would also recommend putting these tasks in a separate org file and
just adding it to your agenda with C-c [.  Then it's easy to drop it
from the agenda in the future with C-c ].

HTH,
Bernt

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* Re: Repeating tasks with a time period?
  2008-11-13 19:12 ` Bernt Hansen
@ 2008-11-13 19:24   ` Chris McMahan
  2008-11-14  7:52     ` Carsten Dominik
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Chris McMahan @ 2008-11-13 19:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bernt Hansen; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

Just a thought....

Calendar/Diary already has a very sophisticated mechanism for
repeating appointments, blocks of time and such.

Has any thought been given to using this same mechanism, and basically
making the org files almost like super calendar files that can also
handle tasks, outlining and such?

In addition, the remember code for items such as vm mail, gnus and
such could be standardized to generate links that work with both
planner and org-mode. That way, all of the work of generating links
will be with the remember package, and not rewritten for every
implementation that uses them.

Just some random musings.

- Chris

Bernt Hansen writes:
>"Oliver Charles" <oliver.g.charles@googlemail.com> writes:
>
>> I'm starting to use org-mode more and more at the moment, and want to
>> integrate my university schedule into my agenda, instead of
>> maintaining 2 separate calendars.
>>
>> Here's an real-world example of what I'd like to do, I'm not sure it's
>> possible with org-mode though...
>>
>> I have a CSC243 practical every Tuesday, at 1100-1300. It repeats
>> weekly, starting on 28/10/2008 and the last one is on 16/12/2008. I
>> can get it repeating weekly from this date with just a start time, but
>> cannot work out how to repeat the time region.
>
>,----[ university.org ]
>| * Classes
>| ** TODO CSC243 Practical
>|    SCHEDULED: <2008-10-28 Tue 11:00-13:00 +1w> 
>| 
>`----
>
>>
>> Also, is there anyway to stop the repeating event when it gets to that
>> date? If that's not possible, I don't mind having to go in and
>> manually remove the event - most changes happen at the end of a term
>> anyawy.
>
>No, repeating items go on forever (as far as I know)
>
>I normally deal with this with a second deadline item to kill the task.
>Something like this:
>
>,----[ university.org ]
>| * Classes
>| ** TODO CSC243 Practical
>|    SCHEDULED: <2008-10-28 Tue 11:00-13:00 +1w> 
>| *** TODO Task ends
>|     DEADLINE: <2008-12-16 Tue -7d>
>| 
>`----
>
>and then I just remove the +1w from the CSC243 task and mark it and the
>deadline task as done.
>
>I would also recommend putting these tasks in a separate org file and
>just adding it to your agenda with C-c [.  Then it's easy to drop it
>from the agenda in the future with C-c ].
>
>HTH,
>Bernt
>
>
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-- 
================================
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================================

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* Re: Re: Repeating tasks with a time period?
  2008-11-13 19:24   ` Chris McMahan
@ 2008-11-14  7:52     ` Carsten Dominik
  2008-11-14 14:22       ` Chris McMahan
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Carsten Dominik @ 2008-11-14  7:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Chris McMahan; +Cc: Bernt Hansen, emacs-orgmode


On Nov 13, 2008, at 8:24 PM, Chris McMahan wrote:

> Just a thought....
>
> Calendar/Diary already has a very sophisticated mechanism for
> repeating appointments, blocks of time and such.
>
> Has any thought been given to using this same mechanism, and basically
> making the org files almost like super calendar files that can also
> handle tasks, outlining and such?


You can insert diary sexp entries directly as they are into Org files,
and also into the <...> timestamp brackets.  Check the manual.

http://orgmode.org/manual/Timestamps.html#Timestamps
http://orgmode.org/manual/Weekly_002fdaily-agenda.html#Weekly_002fdaily-agenda

>
>
> In addition, the remember code for items such as vm mail, gnus and
> such could be standardized to generate links that work with both
> planner and org-mode. That way, all of the work of generating links
> will be with the remember package, and not rewritten for every
> implementation that uses them.

I think both package are too old and have too much legacy files in the  
hands of many users to change this.  However, the link formats are  
actually similar enough to make the code following links understand  
both formats.

- Carsten

>
>
> Just some random musings.
>
> - Chris
>
> Bernt Hansen writes:
>> "Oliver Charles" <oliver.g.charles@googlemail.com> writes:
>>
>>> I'm starting to use org-mode more and more at the moment, and want  
>>> to
>>> integrate my university schedule into my agenda, instead of
>>> maintaining 2 separate calendars.
>>>
>>> Here's an real-world example of what I'd like to do, I'm not sure  
>>> it's
>>> possible with org-mode though...
>>>
>>> I have a CSC243 practical every Tuesday, at 1100-1300. It repeats
>>> weekly, starting on 28/10/2008 and the last one is on 16/12/2008. I
>>> can get it repeating weekly from this date with just a start time,  
>>> but
>>> cannot work out how to repeat the time region.
>>
>> ,----[ university.org ]
>> | * Classes
>> | ** TODO CSC243 Practical
>> |    SCHEDULED: <2008-10-28 Tue 11:00-13:00 +1w>
>> |
>> `----
>>
>>>
>>> Also, is there anyway to stop the repeating event when it gets to  
>>> that
>>> date? If that's not possible, I don't mind having to go in and
>>> manually remove the event - most changes happen at the end of a term
>>> anyawy.
>>
>> No, repeating items go on forever (as far as I know)
>>
>> I normally deal with this with a second deadline item to kill the  
>> task.
>> Something like this:
>>
>> ,----[ university.org ]
>> | * Classes
>> | ** TODO CSC243 Practical
>> |    SCHEDULED: <2008-10-28 Tue 11:00-13:00 +1w>
>> | *** TODO Task ends
>> |     DEADLINE: <2008-12-16 Tue -7d>
>> |
>> `----
>>
>> and then I just remove the +1w from the CSC243 task and mark it and  
>> the
>> deadline task as done.
>>
>> I would also recommend putting these tasks in a separate org file and
>> just adding it to your agenda with C-c [.  Then it's easy to drop it
>> from the agenda in the future with C-c ].
>>
>> HTH,
>> Bernt
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list
>> Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
>
> -- 
> ================================
> Chris McMahan | cmcmahan@one.net
> ================================
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Emacs-orgmode mailing list
> Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode

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* Re: Re: Repeating tasks with a time period?
  2008-11-14  7:52     ` Carsten Dominik
@ 2008-11-14 14:22       ` Chris McMahan
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Chris McMahan @ 2008-11-14 14:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Carsten Dominik; +Cc: Bernt Hansen, emacs-orgmode

It just keeps getting better!

Thanks Carsten!

- chris

Carsten Dominik writes:
>
>On Nov 13, 2008, at 8:24 PM, Chris McMahan wrote:
>
>> Just a thought....
>>
>> Calendar/Diary already has a very sophisticated mechanism for
>> repeating appointments, blocks of time and such.
>>
>> Has any thought been given to using this same mechanism, and basically
>> making the org files almost like super calendar files that can also
>> handle tasks, outlining and such?
>
>
>You can insert diary sexp entries directly as they are into Org files,
>and also into the <...> timestamp brackets.  Check the manual.
>
>http://orgmode.org/manual/Timestamps.html#Timestamps
>http://orgmode.org/manual/Weekly_002fdaily-agenda.html#Weekly_002fdaily-agenda
>
>>
>>
>> In addition, the remember code for items such as vm mail, gnus and
>> such could be standardized to generate links that work with both
>> planner and org-mode. That way, all of the work of generating links
>> will be with the remember package, and not rewritten for every
>> implementation that uses them.
>
>I think both package are too old and have too much legacy files in the  
>hands of many users to change this.  However, the link formats are  
>actually similar enough to make the code following links understand  
>both formats.
>
>- Carsten
>
>>
>>
>> Just some random musings.
>>
>> - Chris
>>
>> Bernt Hansen writes:
>>> "Oliver Charles" <oliver.g.charles@googlemail.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> I'm starting to use org-mode more and more at the moment, and want  
>>>> to
>>>> integrate my university schedule into my agenda, instead of
>>>> maintaining 2 separate calendars.
>>>>
>>>> Here's an real-world example of what I'd like to do, I'm not sure  
>>>> it's
>>>> possible with org-mode though...
>>>>
>>>> I have a CSC243 practical every Tuesday, at 1100-1300. It repeats
>>>> weekly, starting on 28/10/2008 and the last one is on 16/12/2008. I
>>>> can get it repeating weekly from this date with just a start time,  
>>>> but
>>>> cannot work out how to repeat the time region.
>>>
>>> ,----[ university.org ]
>>> | * Classes
>>> | ** TODO CSC243 Practical
>>> |    SCHEDULED: <2008-10-28 Tue 11:00-13:00 +1w>
>>> |
>>> `----
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Also, is there anyway to stop the repeating event when it gets to  
>>>> that
>>>> date? If that's not possible, I don't mind having to go in and
>>>> manually remove the event - most changes happen at the end of a term
>>>> anyawy.
>>>
>>> No, repeating items go on forever (as far as I know)
>>>
>>> I normally deal with this with a second deadline item to kill the  
>>> task.
>>> Something like this:
>>>
>>> ,----[ university.org ]
>>> | * Classes
>>> | ** TODO CSC243 Practical
>>> |    SCHEDULED: <2008-10-28 Tue 11:00-13:00 +1w>
>>> | *** TODO Task ends
>>> |     DEADLINE: <2008-12-16 Tue -7d>
>>> |
>>> `----
>>>
>>> and then I just remove the +1w from the CSC243 task and mark it and  
>>> the
>>> deadline task as done.
>>>
>>> I would also recommend putting these tasks in a separate org file and
>>> just adding it to your agenda with C-c [.  Then it's easy to drop it
>>> from the agenda in the future with C-c ].
>>>
>>> HTH,
>>> Bernt
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list
>>> Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
>>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
>>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
>>
>> -- 
>> ================================
>> Chris McMahan | cmcmahan@one.net
>> ================================
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list
>> Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode

-- 
================================
Chris McMahan | cmcmahan@one.net
================================

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