* Images not showing up in PDF output
@ 2014-04-05 4:59 Mark S.
2014-04-05 9:55 ` Eric S Fraga
0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Mark S. @ 2014-04-05 4:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Hello,
I was able to export a subtree as PDF, but the images don't show up. The images do export in HTML, and I can see that there is LaTeX code for it. It looks like this:
\includegraphics[width=10em]{./Periodicals.org_20140402_202538_4928DjL.png}
Are there settings or additional add-ons that I need to produce the images?
Thank you,
Mark
Using MikTeX 2.9 under Windows XP with Org-mode 7.5
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread* Re: Images not showing up in PDF output 2014-04-05 4:59 Images not showing up in PDF output Mark S. @ 2014-04-05 9:55 ` Eric S Fraga 2014-04-05 16:46 ` Richard Lawrence 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Eric S Fraga @ 2014-04-05 9:55 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Mark S.; +Cc: emacs-orgmode On Saturday, 5 Apr 2014 at 05:59, Mark S. wrote: > Hello, > > I was able to export a subtree as PDF, but the images don't show > up. The images do export in HTML, and I can see that there is LaTeX > code for it. It looks like this: > > \includegraphics[width=10em]{./Periodicals.org_20140402_202538_4928DjL.png} > > Are there settings or additional add-ons that I need to produce the images? > > Thank you, > Mark > > Using MikTeX 2.9 under Windows XP with Org-mode 7.5 Nothing else should be needed, as far as I know (I don't use MS Windows). Have you tried miktex directly on the LaTeX file created by org? I would recommend, in any case, upgrading to a more recent version of org. version 7.5 is quite old. The export engine was completely rewritten for version 8 of org and is much more consistent and robust. -- : Eric S Fraga (0xFFFCF67D), Emacs 24.4.50.2, Org release_8.2.5h-876-gf57b2d ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Images not showing up in PDF output 2014-04-05 9:55 ` Eric S Fraga @ 2014-04-05 16:46 ` Richard Lawrence 2014-04-05 19:33 ` [OT] Don't use BibTeX! (was: Images not showing up in PDF output) Marcin Borkowski 2014-04-06 18:14 ` Images not showing up in PDF output Mark S. 0 siblings, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Richard Lawrence @ 2014-04-05 16:46 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode; +Cc: Mark S. Hi Mark, > On Saturday, 5 Apr 2014 at 05:59, Mark S. wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I was able to export a subtree as PDF, but the images don't show >> up. The images do export in HTML, and I can see that there is LaTeX >> code for it. It looks like this: >> >> \includegraphics[width=10em]{./Periodicals.org_20140402_202538_4928DjL.png} >> >> Are there settings or additional add-ons that I need to produce the images? In addition to Eric's advice, I would recommend that you check that this image is in the right directory, relative to where the .tex file lives, and relative to where LaTeX is being run. (Check the compile log to see if there are errors about not finding the image, or try to compile the exported .tex by hand, without the -interaction nonstopmode option which I believe is Org's default.) I have sometimes run into problems (mostly with BibTeX) when the exported .tex file doesn't exist in the directory where org-latex-pdf-process is run: even though the paths may look right in the .tex file, if the other files used in the compilation (.aux, etc.) don't end up in the right place, relative paths can break. Best, Richard (If possible, please encrypt your reply to me using my PGP key: Key ID: CF6FA646 Fingerprint: 9969 43E1 CF6F A646. See http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~rwl/encryption.html for more information.) ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* [OT] Don't use BibTeX! (was: Images not showing up in PDF output) 2014-04-05 16:46 ` Richard Lawrence @ 2014-04-05 19:33 ` Marcin Borkowski 2014-04-07 1:39 ` [OT] Don't use BibTeX! Richard Lawrence 2014-04-06 18:14 ` Images not showing up in PDF output Mark S. 1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Marcin Borkowski @ 2014-04-05 19:33 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode Dnia 2014-04-05, o godz. 09:46:39 Richard Lawrence <richard.lawrence@berkeley.edu> napisał(a): > I have sometimes run into problems (mostly with BibTeX) when the Sorry for being off-topic, but I can't resist: *please* *don't* *use* *BibTeX*. On the scale of "tools that solve problems" vs. "tools that create problems" (cf. http://xkcd.com/1343/ ;)), it is located on the far right. (For instance, to be able to customize its bibliography style, you could (a) give up, (b) use some user-friendly (or not) front-end, having less power than BibTeX itself (obviously!), or (c) learn BibTeX's own, very peculiar, stack-based ad-hoc language grown to describe bibliography styles. Not good. Also, if you're unlucky and you write in some non-English language, well, you're unlucky with BibTeX, especially if e.g. your name starts with a non-Latin letter. Etc.) Use biblatex instead. It's more modern, it's being supported, it knowns that there exist things like UTF-8 and non-English languages, it supports more citation styles etc. > Best, > Richard Best, -- Marcin Borkowski http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski Adam Mickiewicz University ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: [OT] Don't use BibTeX! 2014-04-05 19:33 ` [OT] Don't use BibTeX! (was: Images not showing up in PDF output) Marcin Borkowski @ 2014-04-07 1:39 ` Richard Lawrence 2014-04-07 2:58 ` Thomas S. Dye 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Richard Lawrence @ 2014-04-07 1:39 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode; +Cc: Marcin Borkowski Marcin Borkowski <mbork@wmi.amu.edu.pl> writes: > Dnia 2014-04-05, o godz. 09:46:39 > Richard Lawrence <richard.lawrence@berkeley.edu> napisał(a): > >> I have sometimes run into problems (mostly with BibTeX) when the > > Sorry for being off-topic, but I can't resist: *please* *don't* *use* > *BibTeX*. On the scale of "tools that solve problems" vs. "tools that > create problems" (cf. http://xkcd.com/1343/ ;)), it is located on the > far right. Now now, the first sentence on http://www.bibtex.org/Using/ says that to use Bibtex, "Just create a plain text file and apply what has been explained in section BibTeX File Format."! It doesn't say anything about how to use the manual. ;) > (For instance, to be able to customize its bibliography style, you > could (a) give up, (b) use some user-friendly (or not) front-end, > having less power than BibTeX itself (obviously!), or (c) learn > BibTeX's own, very peculiar, stack-based ad-hoc language grown to > describe bibliography styles. Not good. Also, if you're unlucky and > you write in some non-English language, well, you're unlucky with > BibTeX, especially if e.g. your name starts with a non-Latin letter. > Etc.) I mostly use bibtex because that's what I learned, and none of these issues apply to me at this (early) stage in my career. I have no need for customizing my bibliography style. I suppose this will matter more to me when I start sending things out for publication, but at this point I'm still just trying to write the damn dissertation... > Use biblatex instead. It's more modern, it's being supported, it > knowns that there exist things like UTF-8 and non-English languages, > it supports more citation styles etc. I have heard this, but haven't investigated biblatex because I haven't yet really felt the need. I keep my reading list and notes in Org, then export them to a .bib file using org-bibtex. Does biblatex support .bib files? If not, what would be required to support a biblatex-based workflow in Org? Thanks for keeping me honest! Best, Richard ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: [OT] Don't use BibTeX! 2014-04-07 1:39 ` [OT] Don't use BibTeX! Richard Lawrence @ 2014-04-07 2:58 ` Thomas S. Dye 2014-04-07 3:50 ` Biblatex and Org [was: [OT] Don't use BibTeX!] Richard Lawrence 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Thomas S. Dye @ 2014-04-07 2:58 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Richard Lawrence; +Cc: emacs-orgmode, Marcin Borkowski Hi Richard, If you're just starting out, I encourage you to use biblatex. It will take a few minutes to make the switch and then you won't have to think about it. A biblatex site you find googling should tell you what you need to know. There are several differences, but a big one is that biblatex supports a much more informative database and so can handle almost any bibliographic situation. For those of us with large legacy bibtex databases, the database differences are a real issue, but for someone just getting started this isn't such a consideration. Biblatex is the wave of the future in the LaTeX world. hth, Tom Richard Lawrence <richard.lawrence@berkeley.edu> writes: > Marcin Borkowski <mbork@wmi.amu.edu.pl> writes: > >> Dnia 2014-04-05, o godz. 09:46:39 >> Richard Lawrence <richard.lawrence@berkeley.edu> napisał(a): >> >>> I have sometimes run into problems (mostly with BibTeX) when the >> >> Sorry for being off-topic, but I can't resist: *please* *don't* *use* >> *BibTeX*. On the scale of "tools that solve problems" vs. "tools that >> create problems" (cf. http://xkcd.com/1343/ ;)), it is located on the >> far right. > > Now now, the first sentence on http://www.bibtex.org/Using/ says that to > use Bibtex, "Just create a plain text file and apply what has been > explained in section BibTeX File Format."! It doesn't say anything > about how to use the manual. ;) > >> (For instance, to be able to customize its bibliography style, you >> could (a) give up, (b) use some user-friendly (or not) front-end, >> having less power than BibTeX itself (obviously!), or (c) learn >> BibTeX's own, very peculiar, stack-based ad-hoc language grown to >> describe bibliography styles. Not good. Also, if you're unlucky and >> you write in some non-English language, well, you're unlucky with >> BibTeX, especially if e.g. your name starts with a non-Latin letter. >> Etc.) > > I mostly use bibtex because that's what I learned, and none of these > issues apply to me at this (early) stage in my career. I have no need > for customizing my bibliography style. I suppose this will matter more > to me when I start sending things out for publication, but at this point > I'm still just trying to write the damn dissertation... > >> Use biblatex instead. It's more modern, it's being supported, it >> knowns that there exist things like UTF-8 and non-English languages, >> it supports more citation styles etc. > > I have heard this, but haven't investigated biblatex because I haven't > yet really felt the need. > > I keep my reading list and notes in Org, then export them to a .bib file > using org-bibtex. Does biblatex support .bib files? If not, what would > be required to support a biblatex-based workflow in Org? > > Thanks for keeping me honest! > > Best, > Richard > > > -- Thomas S. Dye http://www.tsdye.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Biblatex and Org [was: [OT] Don't use BibTeX!] 2014-04-07 2:58 ` Thomas S. Dye @ 2014-04-07 3:50 ` Richard Lawrence 2014-04-07 8:34 ` Thomas S. Dye 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Richard Lawrence @ 2014-04-07 3:50 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Thomas S. Dye; +Cc: emacs-orgmode, Marcin Borkowski Hi Thomas, "Thomas S. Dye" <tsd@tsdye.com> writes: > If you're just starting out, I encourage you to use biblatex. It will > take a few minutes to make the switch and then you won't have to think > about it. A biblatex site you find googling should tell you what you > need to know. Well, that's the trouble...although I'm still probably a couple of years from wanting to publish anything, I'm not just starting out. I use Org to keep track of my readings and citation information, and then export this data to .bib on the fly using functions from org-bibtex. I have quite a few readings recorded this way. I described my setup a while ago here: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/78983/focus=79016 So I'm not really tied to BibTeX, but I *am* relying on org-bibtex. I'm certainly willing to switch to biblatex if that's going to save me a lot of time or headache in the future. What I need to know is what's required to switch over the parts of my setup that originate in Org. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it looks like I can keep using this part of my setup, because biblatex supports the .bib format: #+BEGIN_QUOTE biblatex can be used with or without BibTeX the program since its default backend Biber uses fully supports the BibTeX file format (bib) and users should be able to move to biblatex will little or no changes to their BibTeX data files when using Biber as a backend. (from section 2 of the biblatex manual at http://mirror.hmc.edu/ctan/macros/latex/contrib/biblatex/doc/biblatex.pdf) #+END_QUOTE So it looks like switching to biblatex is just a matter of changing my compilation process and the bibliography commands in my documents. Does that sound right? Thanks for your advice! Best, Richard ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Biblatex and Org [was: [OT] Don't use BibTeX!] 2014-04-07 3:50 ` Biblatex and Org [was: [OT] Don't use BibTeX!] Richard Lawrence @ 2014-04-07 8:34 ` Thomas S. Dye 2014-04-07 15:12 ` Biblatex and Org Richard Lawrence 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Thomas S. Dye @ 2014-04-07 8:34 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Richard Lawrence; +Cc: emacs-orgmode, Marcin Borkowski Aloha Richard, I think you'll be fine with org-bibtex and biblatex. Richard Lawrence <richard.lawrence@berkeley.edu> writes: > So it looks like switching to biblatex is just a matter of changing my > compilation process and the bibliography commands in my documents. Does > that sound right? Here is a description of using bibtex and biblatex with the old exporter that should still be useful: http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/org-latex-export.html#sec-17 It is easy to switch from one to the other. We use the Chicago Manual of Style at work and the BibTeX chicago style. We find that it approximates the Chicago Manual fairly well, but not completely. A couple of years ago we contemplated moving to biblatex, which has an extremely competent chicago style, but gave up on the idea because it would have meant adding information to thousands of entries in our BibTeX database. It seemed like a lot of work to meet a standard that most of our readers don't know or care about. Where biblatex has helped me the most is writing for history journals. Biblatex is much better at humanities styles than BibTeX, which was designed with science publications fairly firmly in mind. Also, because the biblatex styles are based on LaTeX, rather than BibTeX's weird style language, it is in my experience relatively easy to tweak a biblatex style to meet a journal's specification. In the sciences you'll undoubtedly find journals that accept LaTeX manuscripts and require that a BibTeX style be used, so I would recommend against putting all your eggs in the biblatex basket. All the best, Tom -- T.S. Dye & Colleagues, Archaeologists 735 Bishop St, Suite 315, Honolulu, HI 96813 Tel: 808-529-0866, Fax: 808-529-0884 http://www.tsdye.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Biblatex and Org 2014-04-07 8:34 ` Thomas S. Dye @ 2014-04-07 15:12 ` Richard Lawrence 0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Richard Lawrence @ 2014-04-07 15:12 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode; +Cc: tsd Hi Tom, tsd@tsdye.com (Thomas S. Dye) writes: > I think you'll be fine with org-bibtex and biblatex. > > Richard Lawrence <richard.lawrence@berkeley.edu> writes: > >> So it looks like switching to biblatex is just a matter of changing my >> compilation process and the bibliography commands in my documents. Does >> that sound right? > > Here is a description of using bibtex and biblatex with the old > exporter that should still be useful: > > http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/org-latex-export.html#sec-17 > > It is easy to switch from one to the other. > ... This was very helpful. Many thanks! Best, Richard ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Images not showing up in PDF output 2014-04-05 16:46 ` Richard Lawrence 2014-04-05 19:33 ` [OT] Don't use BibTeX! (was: Images not showing up in PDF output) Marcin Borkowski @ 2014-04-06 18:14 ` Mark S. 1 sibling, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Mark S. @ 2014-04-06 18:14 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode Thanks Richard and Eric! After running it in MikTex by itself, and doing some look-ups, I found that I needed: 1) To use unix style directories in the file paths 2) To use #+LATEX_HEADER: \usepackage[multidot]{grffile} in order to accommodate the extra dot in the file name. Thanks! Mark -------------------------------------------- On Sat, 4/5/14, Richard Lawrence <richard.lawrence@berkeley.edu> wrote: Subject: Re: [O] Images not showing up in PDF output To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Cc: "Mark S." <throaway@yahoo.com> Date: Saturday, April 5, 2014, 9:46 AM Hi Mark, > On Saturday, 5 Apr 2014 at 05:59, Mark S. wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I was able to export a subtree as PDF, but the images don't show >> up. The images do export in HTML, and I can see that there is LaTeX >> code for it. It looks like this: >> >> \includegraphics[width=10em]{./Periodicals.org_20140402_202538_4928DjL.png} >> >> Are there settings or additional add-ons that I need to produce the images? In addition to Eric's advice, I would recommend that you check that this image is in the right directory, relative to where the .tex file lives, and relative to where LaTeX is being run. (Check the compile log to see if there are errors about not finding the image, or try to compile the exported .tex by hand, without the -interaction nonstopmode option which I believe is Org's default.) I have sometimes run into problems (mostly with BibTeX) when the exported .tex file doesn't exist in the directory where org-latex-pdf-process is run: even though the paths may look right in the .tex file, if the other files used in the compilation (.aux, etc.) don't end up in the right place, relative paths can break. Best, Richard (If possible, please encrypt your reply to me using my PGP key: Key ID: CF6FA646 Fingerprint: 9969 43E1 CF6F A646. See http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~rwl/encryption.html for more information.) ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
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