* Advice needed. Use links or blocks?
@ 2010-09-03 0:28 Sebastian Rose
2010-09-03 3:22 ` Nick Dokos
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From: Sebastian Rose @ 2010-09-03 0:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi experts,
the attached file fetches background tiles from openstreetmap.org for
me, and produces SVG images of tracks I ran. Unfortunately, I cannot
find a good way to use that code in an automated way.
What I'd like to do, is to have the coords in my training diary, and
produce the images on demand. When I publish the diary to HTML, I want
the coords to be replaced with a link to the image.
Here is an example of the coords (just two), as I save them in my diary:
'((9.707136154065665 52.3705158282501)(9.711406230817374 52.37525815071791))
And this is, how the function to produce the images is used:
(osm-draw-track
;; Fantasy-track in Brisbane:
'((152.968 -27.533) (152.968 -27.546) (152.974 -27.537))
"Track_in_Brisbane"
8)
Should I go for a special link type:
[[track:((152.968 -27.533) (152.968 -27.546))][2010-09-03 in Brisbane]]
??
Right now, I produce a lisp file, that produces all those images using
`osm-draw-tracks' and add simple links. But this is inconvenient and
prone to error (forgotten tracks)...
Sebastian
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* Re: Advice needed. Use links or blocks?
2010-09-03 0:28 Advice needed. Use links or blocks? Sebastian Rose
@ 2010-09-03 3:22 ` Nick Dokos
2010-09-03 15:23 ` Sebastian Rose
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From: Nick Dokos @ 2010-09-03 3:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Sebastian Rose; +Cc: nicholas.dokos, Emacs-orgmode mailing list
Sebastian Rose <sebastian_rose@gmx.de> wrote:
> the attached file fetches background tiles from openstreetmap.org for
> me, and produces SVG images of tracks I ran. Unfortunately, I cannot
> find a good way to use that code in an automated way.
>
> What I'd like to do, is to have the coords in my training diary, and
> produce the images on demand. When I publish the diary to HTML, I want
> the coords to be replaced with a link to the image.
>
> Here is an example of the coords (just two), as I save them in my diary:
>
> '((9.707136154065665 52.3705158282501)(9.711406230817374 52.37525815071791))
>
>
> And this is, how the function to produce the images is used:
>
> (osm-draw-track
> ;; Fantasy-track in Brisbane:
> '((152.968 -27.533) (152.968 -27.546) (152.974 -27.537))
> "Track_in_Brisbane"
> 8)
>
>
>
> Should I go for a special link type:
>
> [[track:((152.968 -27.533) (152.968 -27.546))][2010-09-03 in Brisbane]]
>
> ??
>
>
> Right now, I produce a lisp file, that produces all those images using
> `osm-draw-tracks' and add simple links. But this is inconvenient and
> prone to error (forgotten tracks)...
>
Very cool indeed. I am certainly not an expert but I thought I'd remind you
of a vaguely similar idea that Julien Danjou implemented with his
org-location-google-maps.el: he stores the location in the LOCATION property
of an entry.
Maybe a TRACK property, possibly accompanied by an ID that will link to
the SVG as an attachment and act as a cache? And other fields can be added
at will (name, date, completion time, amount of water drunk :-) etc.)
Nick
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* Re: Advice needed. Use links or blocks?
2010-09-03 3:22 ` Nick Dokos
@ 2010-09-03 15:23 ` Sebastian Rose
2010-09-12 11:23 ` David Maus
0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Sebastian Rose @ 2010-09-03 15:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: nicholas.dokos; +Cc: Emacs-orgmode mailing list
Nick Dokos <nicholas.dokos@hp.com> writes:
> Sebastian Rose <sebastian_rose@gmx.de> wrote:
>
>
>> the attached file fetches background tiles from openstreetmap.org for
>> me, and produces SVG images of tracks I ran. Unfortunately, I cannot
>> find a good way to use that code in an automated way.
>>
>> What I'd like to do, is to have the coords in my training diary, and
>> produce the images on demand. When I publish the diary to HTML, I want
>> the coords to be replaced with a link to the image.
>>
>> Here is an example of the coords (just two), as I save them in my diary:
>>
>> '((9.707136154065665 52.3705158282501)(9.711406230817374 52.37525815071791))
>>
>>
>> And this is, how the function to produce the images is used:
>>
>> (osm-draw-track
>> ;; Fantasy-track in Brisbane:
>> '((152.968 -27.533) (152.968 -27.546) (152.974 -27.537))
>> "Track_in_Brisbane"
>> 8)
>>
>>
>>
>> Should I go for a special link type:
>>
>> [[track:((152.968 -27.533) (152.968 -27.546))][2010-09-03 in Brisbane]]
>>
>> ??
>>
>>
>> Right now, I produce a lisp file, that produces all those images using
>> `osm-draw-tracks' and add simple links. But this is inconvenient and
>> prone to error (forgotten tracks)...
>>
>
> Very cool indeed. I am certainly not an expert but I thought I'd remind you
> of a vaguely similar idea that Julien Danjou implemented with his
> org-location-google-maps.el: he stores the location in the LOCATION property
> of an entry.
>
> Maybe a TRACK property, possibly accompanied by an ID that will link to
> the SVG as an attachment and act as a cache? And other fields can be added
> at will (name, date, completion time, amount of water drunk :-) etc.)
I have those kind of properties. Start-time, pace, etc.
But I was hoping to make it usefull for other purposes, too. One could
have more than just one track in a section. E.g. one for the warm-up,
one for the competition.
Actually, I'd like to click somewhere and see the track in an extra
frame. In Emacs and in my Browser. That's why I was thinking about
links.
As I look into `C-h f org-add-link-type' I guess links are indeed the
way to go.
BTW: I like OSM better, because it includes cycling paths and stuff like
that as well as more detail in general (phone boths, stores etc.). For
runners, google maps are useless.
Sebastian
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* Re: Advice needed. Use links or blocks?
2010-09-03 15:23 ` Sebastian Rose
@ 2010-09-12 11:23 ` David Maus
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From: David Maus @ 2010-09-12 11:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Sebastian Rose; +Cc: nicholas.dokos, Emacs-orgmode mailing list
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Sebastian Rose wrote:
>Nick Dokos <nicholas.dokos@hp.com> writes:
>> Sebastian Rose <sebastian_rose@gmx.de> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> the attached file fetches background tiles from openstreetmap.org for
>>> me, and produces SVG images of tracks I ran. Unfortunately, I cannot
>>> find a good way to use that code in an automated way.
>>>
>>> What I'd like to do, is to have the coords in my training diary, and
>>> produce the images on demand. When I publish the diary to HTML, I want
>>> the coords to be replaced with a link to the image.
>>>
>>> Here is an example of the coords (just two), as I save them in my diary:
>>>
>>> '((9.707136154065665 52.3705158282501)(9.711406230817374 52.37525815071791))
>>>
>>>
>>> And this is, how the function to produce the images is used:
>>>
>>> (osm-draw-track
>>> ;; Fantasy-track in Brisbane:
>>> '((152.968 -27.533) (152.968 -27.546) (152.974 -27.537))
>>> "Track_in_Brisbane"
>>> 8)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Should I go for a special link type:
>>>
>>> [[track:((152.968 -27.533) (152.968 -27.546))][2010-09-03 in Brisbane]]
>>>
>>> ??
>>>
>>>
>>> Right now, I produce a lisp file, that produces all those images using
>>> `osm-draw-tracks' and add simple links. But this is inconvenient and
>>> prone to error (forgotten tracks)...
>>>
>>
>> Very cool indeed. I am certainly not an expert but I thought I'd remind you
>> of a vaguely similar idea that Julien Danjou implemented with his
>> org-location-google-maps.el: he stores the location in the LOCATION property
>> of an entry.
>>
>> Maybe a TRACK property, possibly accompanied by an ID that will link to
>> the SVG as an attachment and act as a cache? And other fields can be added
>> at will (name, date, completion time, amount of water drunk :-) etc.)
>I have those kind of properties. Start-time, pace, etc.
>But I was hoping to make it usefull for other purposes, too. One could
>have more than just one track in a section. E.g. one for the warm-up,
>one for the competition.
>Actually, I'd like to click somewhere and see the track in an extra
>frame. In Emacs and in my Browser. That's why I was thinking about
>links.
>As I look into `C-h f org-add-link-type' I guess links are indeed the
>way to go.
Yes, but the link type
[[track:((152.968 -27.533) (152.968 -27.546))][2010-09-03 in Brisbane]]
has the problem that it is not a proper URI. While this might be no
problem internally, I would prefer a link syntax that matches the URI
specs (RFC3986[1]).
Just took a look on the list of the registered URI schemes[2] and
there is a (recent) link type for geo information: RFC5870[3].
It might be somewhat expensive to (fully) implement the geo: URI
scheme in Org, but I think it would be worth it.
If my quick glance on the specs is right a geo: URI identifies a
point, hence a geo-track: link could be somewhat like:
geo-track:GEO[/GEO]
Where GEO is a path conforming with the geo: URI spec.
Best,
-- David
[1] http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3986.txt
[2] http://www.iana.org/assignments/uri-schemes.html
[3] http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc5870.txt
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