Re: How to use headlines and lists in Org to structure your thoughts?

From: Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>
To: Karl Maihofer <ignoramus@gmx.de>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: How to use headlines and lists in Org to structure your thoughts?
Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 21:00:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <092A9589-5D17-4598-ABBE-B66814C205FD@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101214181325.141033ikbnfst1og@webmail.df.eu>

On Dec 14, 2010, at 6:13 PM, Karl Maihofer wrote:

> The ongoing discussion about inline tasks and drawers withhin lists
> much depends on the way you use Org, I think. Perhaps it is a good
> idea to brainstorm some fundamental aspects in regard to headlines and
> lists.
>
> Why and in which situations do we use lists? I use lists a lot to
> write down my thoughts. I think there are mainly two reasons for this:
> - Headlines are exported as headlines, not as list items. ;-)

This is, in fact, not correct.  Headlines beyond a certain
level (3 by default) are exported as lists.  You can change
the level where this change happens in a number of different
ways, see for example:

#+OPTIONS: H:2

- Carsten

> - In Headlines you do not have word wrap. So you always have to phrase
>  a headline and then write your text below this headline. For me it
>  is much easier to use lists and write, write, write... with word
>  wrap.
>
> I think these are the reasons for me to use lists a lot. But if I do
> so, I cannot define tasks in my texts - the core concept of Org. To
> solve this dilemma, I can think of two different approaches:
>
> 1. Make it possible to use inline tasks withhin lists. This is what
>   Nicolas implemented (thanks a lot!!!) and what works very well. But
>   it is not a "nice" concept. We discussed this already and I
>   understand the reasons why Carsten and Nicolas himself have
>   reservations. It it only a workaround.
> 2. Make headlines behave like list items. This means enabling word
>   wrap for headlines and export the headlines as lists. If a headline
>   should be exported as a headline you could use a tag :HEADLINE:. If
>   this would be possible, I cannot see a reason why I should make
>   such extensive use of lists.
>
> What do you think? How do you use lists? Do you think the second
> approach would make sense? Or do I miss something essential?
>
> Regards,
> Karl
>
>
>
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