From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Carsten Dominik Subject: Re: How to use headlines and lists in Org to structure your thoughts? Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 21:00:31 +0100 Message-ID: <092A9589-5D17-4598-ABBE-B66814C205FD@gmail.com> References: <20101214181325.141033ikbnfst1og@webmail.df.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=34051 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PU2xJ-0003mt-3O for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Dec 2010 15:00:38 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PU2xH-0008Bn-Oi for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Dec 2010 15:00:36 -0500 Received: from mail-ey0-f177.google.com ([209.85.215.177]:63355) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PU2xH-0008BX-Ie for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Dec 2010 15:00:35 -0500 Received: by eyd9 with SMTP id 9so1179993eyd.36 for ; Sat, 18 Dec 2010 12:00:34 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20101214181325.141033ikbnfst1og@webmail.df.eu> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Karl Maihofer Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org On Dec 14, 2010, at 6:13 PM, Karl Maihofer wrote: > The ongoing discussion about inline tasks and drawers withhin lists > much depends on the way you use Org, I think. Perhaps it is a good > idea to brainstorm some fundamental aspects in regard to headlines and > lists. > > Why and in which situations do we use lists? I use lists a lot to > write down my thoughts. I think there are mainly two reasons for this: > - Headlines are exported as headlines, not as list items. ;-) This is, in fact, not correct. Headlines beyond a certain level (3 by default) are exported as lists. You can change the level where this change happens in a number of different ways, see for example: #+OPTIONS: H:2 - Carsten > - In Headlines you do not have word wrap. So you always have to phrase > a headline and then write your text below this headline. For me it > is much easier to use lists and write, write, write... with word > wrap. > > I think these are the reasons for me to use lists a lot. But if I do > so, I cannot define tasks in my texts - the core concept of Org. To > solve this dilemma, I can think of two different approaches: > > 1. Make it possible to use inline tasks withhin lists. This is what > Nicolas implemented (thanks a lot!!!) and what works very well. But > it is not a "nice" concept. We discussed this already and I > understand the reasons why Carsten and Nicolas himself have > reservations. It it only a workaround. > 2. Make headlines behave like list items. This means enabling word > wrap for headlines and export the headlines as lists. If a headline > should be exported as a headline you could use a tag :HEADLINE:. If > this would be possible, I cannot see a reason why I should make > such extensive use of lists. > > What do you think? How do you use lists? Do you think the second > approach would make sense? Or do I miss something essential? > > Regards, > Karl > > > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode