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* [IDEA] HTML-export literal examples to textarea
@ 2009-01-16  9:51 Ulf Stegemann
  2009-01-17  8:01 ` Carsten Dominik
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Ulf Stegemann @ 2009-01-16  9:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

Is it worth thinking about an example block that will be exported to a
"<p><textarea ...>...</textarea></p>" structure in HTML export?

I was recently playing around with org for online documentation. The
documents contained lots of literal examples that can be directly copied
and pasted e.g. into a terminal emu. While example- and src blocks work
fine, I think that putting this kind of information into a textarea
would be even better.

Ideally the cols attribute to textarea could be defined by the user
after #+begin_textarea (or whatever) with a reasonable default (let's
say 80). Rows could be calculated depending on the number of lines
inside the block.

Export to anything else than HTML should treat such a block in much the
same way as an example block.

I think this really would be a nice feature to have and maybe I'm not
alone with this opinion?

Ulf

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* Re: [IDEA] HTML-export literal examples to textarea
  2009-01-16  9:51 [IDEA] HTML-export literal examples to textarea Ulf Stegemann
@ 2009-01-17  8:01 ` Carsten Dominik
  2009-01-19  7:25   ` Ulf Stegemann
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Carsten Dominik @ 2009-01-17  8:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ulf Stegemann; +Cc: emacs-orgmode


On Jan 16, 2009, at 10:51 AM, Ulf Stegemann wrote:

> Is it worth thinking about an example block that will be exported to a
> "<p><textarea ...>...</textarea></p>" structure in HTML export?
>
> I was recently playing around with org for online documentation. The
> documents contained lots of literal examples that can be directly  
> copied
> and pasted e.g. into a terminal emu. While example- and src blocks  
> work
> fine, I think that putting this kind of information into a textarea
> would be even better.

Hi Ulf, so far I fail to see what the big advantage would be.  Can
you try again to explain?

- Carsten


>
>
> Ideally the cols attribute to textarea could be defined by the user
> after #+begin_textarea (or whatever) with a reasonable default (let's
> say 80). Rows could be calculated depending on the number of lines
> inside the block.
>
> Export to anything else than HTML should treat such a block in much  
> the
> same way as an example block.
>
> I think this really would be a nice feature to have and maybe I'm not
> alone with this opinion?
>
> Ulf
>
>
>
>
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* Re: [IDEA] HTML-export literal examples to textarea
  2009-01-17  8:01 ` Carsten Dominik
@ 2009-01-19  7:25   ` Ulf Stegemann
  2009-01-19  8:31     ` Carsten Dominik
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Ulf Stegemann @ 2009-01-19  7:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

Hi Carsten,

Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> wrote:

> On Jan 16, 2009, at 10:51 AM, Ulf Stegemann wrote:
>
>> Is it worth thinking about an example block that will be exported to a
>> "<p><textarea ...>...</textarea></p>" structure in HTML export?
>>
>> I was recently playing around with org for online documentation. The
>> documents contained lots of literal examples that can be directly copied
>> and pasted e.g. into a terminal emu. While example- and src blocks work
>> fine, I think that putting this kind of information into a textarea
>> would be even better.
>
> Hi Ulf, so far I fail to see what the big advantage would be.  Can
> you try again to explain?

of course. Generally, selecting text is a bit easier inside an input box
but the very real advantage is that you can edit inside inputs. This
allows to give literal examples with "variables" that can be changed
directly inside the page before being copied and pasted.

Ulf

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* Re: Re: [IDEA] HTML-export literal examples to textarea
  2009-01-19  7:25   ` Ulf Stegemann
@ 2009-01-19  8:31     ` Carsten Dominik
  2009-01-19  8:56       ` Ulf Stegemann
  2009-01-19  9:02       ` Tassilo Horn
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Carsten Dominik @ 2009-01-19  8:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ulf Stegemann; +Cc: emacs-orgmode


On Jan 19, 2009, at 8:25 AM, Ulf Stegemann wrote:

> Hi Carsten,
>
> Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> wrote:
>
>> On Jan 16, 2009, at 10:51 AM, Ulf Stegemann wrote:
>>
>>> Is it worth thinking about an example block that will be exported  
>>> to a
>>> "<p><textarea ...>...</textarea></p>" structure in HTML export?
>>>
>>> I was recently playing around with org for online documentation. The
>>> documents contained lots of literal examples that can be directly  
>>> copied
>>> and pasted e.g. into a terminal emu. While example- and src blocks  
>>> work
>>> fine, I think that putting this kind of information into a textarea
>>> would be even better.
>>
>> Hi Ulf, so far I fail to see what the big advantage would be.  Can
>> you try again to explain?
>
> of course. Generally, selecting text is a bit easier inside an input  
> box
> but the very real advantage is that you can edit inside inputs. This
> allows to give literal examples with "variables" that can be changed
> directly inside the page before being copied and pasted.

Hmmm, but why would you want to edit them in the text window, if you
will paste them into an editor anyway, where you probably can edit
them a lot easier?  Or are you talking about pasting examples
directly into an interpreter input stream?

- Carsten

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* Re: [IDEA] HTML-export literal examples to textarea
  2009-01-19  8:31     ` Carsten Dominik
@ 2009-01-19  8:56       ` Ulf Stegemann
  2009-01-19  9:01         ` Carsten Dominik
  2009-01-19 10:57         ` Manish
  2009-01-19  9:02       ` Tassilo Horn
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Ulf Stegemann @ 2009-01-19  8:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> wrote:

> On Jan 19, 2009, at 8:25 AM, Ulf Stegemann wrote:
>
>> Hi Carsten,
>>
>> Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> wrote:
>>
>>> On Jan 16, 2009, at 10:51 AM, Ulf Stegemann wrote:
>>>
>>>> Is it worth thinking about an example block that will be exported to a
>>>> "<p><textarea ...>...</textarea></p>" structure in HTML export?
>>>>
>>>> I was recently playing around with org for online documentation. The
>>>> documents contained lots of literal examples that can be directly copied
>>>> and pasted e.g. into a terminal emu. While example- and src blocks work
>>>> fine, I think that putting this kind of information into a textarea
>>>> would be even better.
>>>
>>> Hi Ulf, so far I fail to see what the big advantage would be.  Can
>>> you try again to explain?
>>
>> of course. Generally, selecting text is a bit easier inside an input box
>> but the very real advantage is that you can edit inside inputs. This
>> allows to give literal examples with "variables" that can be changed
>> directly inside the page before being copied and pasted.
>
> Hmmm, but why would you want to edit them in the text window, if you
> will paste them into an editor anyway, where you probably can edit
> them a lot easier?  Or are you talking about pasting examples
> directly into an interpreter input stream?

yes, in the concrete case the documentation was about a rather complex
system and software setup and the "examples" were mainly meant to be
copied and pasted directly into an terminal emu ... with variable things
like host-, path-, user names an so on. Of course, one could paste this
in an editor first to change something but as the changes would be
rather minimal this would prove to be a bit clumsy.

Actually nobody seems to do it like this. I asked the target group how
they handle this and they told me, they just selected the text up to the
first variable, pasted it into the terminal, typed their variable value
into the terminal and then selected the rest of the example to complete
their command line(s).

Ulf

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* Re: Re: [IDEA] HTML-export literal examples to textarea
  2009-01-19  8:56       ` Ulf Stegemann
@ 2009-01-19  9:01         ` Carsten Dominik
  2009-01-19 11:14           ` Ulf Stegemann
  2009-01-19 10:57         ` Manish
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Carsten Dominik @ 2009-01-19  9:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ulf Stegemann, Eric Schulte; +Cc: Emacs-orgmode mailing list

So it remains a kind-of specialistic thing.

Maybe Eric would like to add a textarea block to org-export-blocks.el?

- Carsten

On Jan 19, 2009, at 9:56 AM, Ulf Stegemann wrote:

> Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> wrote:
>
>> On Jan 19, 2009, at 8:25 AM, Ulf Stegemann wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Carsten,
>>>
>>> Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Jan 16, 2009, at 10:51 AM, Ulf Stegemann wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Is it worth thinking about an example block that will be  
>>>>> exported to a
>>>>> "<p><textarea ...>...</textarea></p>" structure in HTML export?
>>>>>
>>>>> I was recently playing around with org for online documentation.  
>>>>> The
>>>>> documents contained lots of literal examples that can be  
>>>>> directly copied
>>>>> and pasted e.g. into a terminal emu. While example- and src  
>>>>> blocks work
>>>>> fine, I think that putting this kind of information into a  
>>>>> textarea
>>>>> would be even better.
>>>>
>>>> Hi Ulf, so far I fail to see what the big advantage would be.  Can
>>>> you try again to explain?
>>>
>>> of course. Generally, selecting text is a bit easier inside an  
>>> input box
>>> but the very real advantage is that you can edit inside inputs. This
>>> allows to give literal examples with "variables" that can be changed
>>> directly inside the page before being copied and pasted.
>>
>> Hmmm, but why would you want to edit them in the text window, if you
>> will paste them into an editor anyway, where you probably can edit
>> them a lot easier?  Or are you talking about pasting examples
>> directly into an interpreter input stream?
>
> yes, in the concrete case the documentation was about a rather complex
> system and software setup and the "examples" were mainly meant to be
> copied and pasted directly into an terminal emu ... with variable  
> things
> like host-, path-, user names an so on. Of course, one could paste  
> this
> in an editor first to change something but as the changes would be
> rather minimal this would prove to be a bit clumsy.
>
> Actually nobody seems to do it like this. I asked the target group how
> they handle this and they told me, they just selected the text up to  
> the
> first variable, pasted it into the terminal, typed their variable  
> value
> into the terminal and then selected the rest of the example to  
> complete
> their command line(s).
>
> Ulf
>
>
>
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* Re: [IDEA] HTML-export literal examples to textarea
  2009-01-19  8:31     ` Carsten Dominik
  2009-01-19  8:56       ` Ulf Stegemann
@ 2009-01-19  9:02       ` Tassilo Horn
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Tassilo Horn @ 2009-01-19  9:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> writes:

Hi!

>>>> Is it worth thinking about an example block that will be exported
>>>> to a "<p><textarea ...>...</textarea></p>" structure in HTML
>>>> export?
>>>>
>>>> I was recently playing around with org for online
>>>> documentation. The documents contained lots of literal examples
>>>> that can be directly copied and pasted e.g. into a terminal
>>>> emu. While example- and src blocks work fine, I think that putting
>>>> this kind of information into a textarea would be even better.
>>>
>>> Hi Ulf, so far I fail to see what the big advantage would be.  Can
>>> you try again to explain?
>>
>> of course. Generally, selecting text is a bit easier inside an input
>> box but the very real advantage is that you can edit inside
>> inputs. This allows to give literal examples with "variables" that
>> can be changed directly inside the page before being copied and
>> pasted.
>
> Hmmm, but why would you want to edit them in the text window, if you
> will paste them into an editor anyway, where you probably can edit
> them a lot easier?  Or are you talking about pasting examples directly
> into an interpreter input stream?

I think that something like textareas might be nice sometimes, but I'd
suggest a more general approach.  How about something like

  #+begin_export_html   #+begin_export_html
  \textit{foo}          <textarea>...</textarea>
  #+end_export_html     #+end_export_html  

for each export format, where the latex export would ignore everything
else.  Maybe an "alternative" thingy would be needed, too.  Something
like common lisp's reader macros "#+sbcl" and "#-(or cmu ecl)" could be
used.

Bye,
Tassilo
-- 
No person,  no idea, and no  religion deserves to be  illegal to insult,
not even the Church of Emacs. (Richard M. Stallman)

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* Re: Re: [IDEA] HTML-export literal examples to textarea
  2009-01-19  8:56       ` Ulf Stegemann
  2009-01-19  9:01         ` Carsten Dominik
@ 2009-01-19 10:57         ` Manish
  2009-01-19 11:59           ` Sebastian Rose
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Manish @ 2009-01-19 10:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ulf Stegemann; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Ulf Stegemann wrote:
> Carsten Dominik wrote:
>
>> On Jan 19, 2009, at 8:25 AM, Ulf Stegemann wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Carsten,
>>>
>>> Carsten Dominik wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Jan 16, 2009, at 10:51 AM, Ulf Stegemann wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Is it worth thinking about an example block that will be exported to a
>>>>> "<p><textarea ...>...</textarea></p>" structure in HTML export?
>>>>>
>>>>> I was recently playing around with org for online documentation. The
>>>>> documents contained lots of literal examples that can be directly copied
>>>>> and pasted e.g. into a terminal emu. While example- and src blocks work
>>>>> fine, I think that putting this kind of information into a textarea
>>>>> would be even better.
>>>>
>>>> Hi Ulf, so far I fail to see what the big advantage would be.  Can
>>>> you try again to explain?
>>>
>>> of course. Generally, selecting text is a bit easier inside an input box
>>> but the very real advantage is that you can edit inside inputs. This
>>> allows to give literal examples with "variables" that can be changed
>>> directly inside the page before being copied and pasted.
>>
>> Hmmm, but why would you want to edit them in the text window, if you
>> will paste them into an editor anyway, where you probably can edit
>> them a lot easier?  Or are you talking about pasting examples
>> directly into an interpreter input stream?
>
> yes, in the concrete case the documentation was about a rather complex
> system and software setup and the "examples" were mainly meant to be
> copied and pasted directly into an terminal emu ... with variable things
> like host-, path-, user names an so on. Of course, one could paste this
> in an editor first to change something but as the changes would be
> rather minimal this would prove to be a bit clumsy.
>
> Actually nobody seems to do it like this. I asked the target group how
> they handle this and they told me, they just selected the text up to the
> first variable, pasted it into the terminal, typed their variable value
> into the terminal and then selected the rest of the example to complete
> their command line(s).

Ditto.  Some of the documents I prepared for a team to follow was also
used exactly like that: copy-paste a small section, enter some text by
hand in terminal, copy-paste the remaining portion.  What happens when
you edit the text in text area and save the HTML file?  Does the
modification get saved?  In any case, seems like a useful option to
have.  Seconded.

-- 
Manish

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* Re: [IDEA] HTML-export literal examples to textarea
  2009-01-19  9:01         ` Carsten Dominik
@ 2009-01-19 11:14           ` Ulf Stegemann
  2009-01-19 17:16             ` Carsten Dominik
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Ulf Stegemann @ 2009-01-19 11:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

Hi Carsten,

Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> wrote:

> So it remains a kind-of specialistic thing.

no, I wouldn't say so. textarea seems to have become quite popular in
HTML online documentation. Apart from all the copy and paste stuff,
textarea can do a virtual wrap or give you a horizontal scroll bar. This
is nice if you have literal text with long lines that can or should not
be wrapped but should also not exceed you layout's horizontal limits.
I'd guess this is the main reason, why textarea is widely used to give
literal examples.

Nevertheless, the textarea block is certainly just a nice-to-have and
not an absolutely necessary killer-feature.


Ulf

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* Re: Re: [IDEA] HTML-export literal examples to textarea
  2009-01-19 10:57         ` Manish
@ 2009-01-19 11:59           ` Sebastian Rose
  2009-01-19 12:04             ` Manish
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Sebastian Rose @ 2009-01-19 11:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Manish; +Cc: emacs-orgmode, Ulf Stegemann

Manish <mailtomanish.sharma@gmail.com> writes:
> Ditto.  Some of the documents I prepared for a team to follow was also
> used exactly like that: copy-paste a small section, enter some text by
> hand in terminal, copy-paste the remaining portion.  What happens when
> you edit the text in text area and save the HTML file?  Does the
> modification get saved? 


No. You'd need a <form> for that as well as a PHP/Perl/Python script on
the Server to do something with the data (assumed that `put' method is
disabled which is the most common case).


I do think textareas are a good thing too. Long lines, CTRL-a to select
everything and so on.

I think Carstens suggetion to have something in org-exp-blocks.el is a
good idea, since it takes the complexity there. The export as textarea
is not complex, but the export as highlighted HTML is (think of all the
other options we have now, like line numbers...). So it might be nice
and clean to get textarea code out of the way.



Regards,



-- 
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* Re: Re: [IDEA] HTML-export literal examples to textarea
  2009-01-19 11:59           ` Sebastian Rose
@ 2009-01-19 12:04             ` Manish
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Manish @ 2009-01-19 12:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Sebastian Rose; +Cc: emacs-orgmode, Ulf Stegemann

On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 5:29 PM, Sebastian Rose wrote:
> Manish writes:
>> Ditto. Some of the documents I prepared for a team to follow was also
>> used exactly like that: copy-paste a small section, enter some text by
>> hand in terminal, copy-paste the remaining portion. What happens when
>> you edit the text in text area and save the HTML file? Does the
>> modification get saved?
>
>
> No. You'd need a <form> for that as well as a PHP/Perl/Python script on
> the Server to do something with the data (assumed that `put' method is
> disabled which is the most common case).

Thanks for the explanation, Sebastian.

-- 
Manish

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* Re: Re: [IDEA] HTML-export literal examples to textarea
  2009-01-19 11:14           ` Ulf Stegemann
@ 2009-01-19 17:16             ` Carsten Dominik
  2009-01-19 22:16               ` Carsten Dominik
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Carsten Dominik @ 2009-01-19 17:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ulf Stegemann; +Cc: emacs-orgmode


On Jan 19, 2009, at 12:14 PM, Ulf Stegemann wrote:

> Hi Carsten,
>
> Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> wrote:
>
>> So it remains a kind-of specialistic thing.
>
> no, I wouldn't say so. textarea seems to have become quite popular in
> HTML online documentation. Apart from all the copy and paste stuff,
> textarea can do a virtual wrap or give you a horizontal scroll bar.  
> This
> is nice if you have literal text with long lines that can or should  
> not
> be wrapped but should also not exceed you layout's horizontal limits.
> I'd guess this is the main reason, why textarea is widely used to give
> literal examples.

OK, so maybe this is more main-stream than I thought.  And, as Sebastian
just reminded us, we do have switch processing in examples already
in place.

So I will put it in, just using a "-t" option at the example (or src)
block, and -h and -w options for width and height (cannot use -r for  
rows,
because -r is already taken.....)

Eric, no action for org-blocks necessary.

- Carsten


>
>
> Nevertheless, the textarea block is certainly just a nice-to-have and
> not an absolutely necessary killer-feature.
>
>
> Ulf
>
>
>
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* Re: Re: [IDEA] HTML-export literal examples to textarea
  2009-01-19 17:16             ` Carsten Dominik
@ 2009-01-19 22:16               ` Carsten Dominik
  2009-01-19 22:32                 ` Sebastian Rose
  2009-01-20 11:34                 ` Ulf Stegemann
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Carsten Dominik @ 2009-01-19 22:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Carsten Dominik; +Cc: emacs-orgmode, Ulf Stegemann


On Jan 19, 2009, at 6:16 PM, Carsten Dominik wrote:

>
> On Jan 19, 2009, at 12:14 PM, Ulf Stegemann wrote:
>
>> Hi Carsten,
>>
>> Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> wrote:
>>
>>> So it remains a kind-of specialistic thing.
>>
>> no, I wouldn't say so. textarea seems to have become quite popular in
>> HTML online documentation. Apart from all the copy and paste stuff,
>> textarea can do a virtual wrap or give you a horizontal scroll bar.  
>> This
>> is nice if you have literal text with long lines that can or should  
>> not
>> be wrapped but should also not exceed you layout's horizontal limits.
>> I'd guess this is the main reason, why textarea is widely used to  
>> give
>> literal examples.
>
> OK, so maybe this is more main-stream than I thought.  And, as  
> Sebastian
> just reminded us, we do have switch processing in examples already
> in place.
>
> So I will put it in, just using a "-t" option at the example (or src)
> block, and -h and -w options for width and height (cannot use -r for  
> rows,
> because -r is already taken.....)

OK, it is in:

#+begin_example -t -w 80 -h 20
...
#+end_example

HTH, thanks for the idea.

- Carsten

>
>
> Eric, no action for org-blocks necessary.
>
> - Carsten
>
>
>>
>>
>> Nevertheless, the textarea block is certainly just a nice-to-have and
>> not an absolutely necessary killer-feature.
>>
>>
>> Ulf
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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* Re: Re: [IDEA] HTML-export literal examples to textarea
  2009-01-19 22:16               ` Carsten Dominik
@ 2009-01-19 22:32                 ` Sebastian Rose
  2009-01-20 11:34                 ` Ulf Stegemann
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Sebastian Rose @ 2009-01-19 22:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Carsten Dominik; +Cc: Ulf Stegemann, Carsten Dominik, emacs-orgmode

Awesome, thanks!!


  Sebastian



Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> writes:
> On Jan 19, 2009, at 6:16 PM, Carsten Dominik wrote:
>
>>
>> On Jan 19, 2009, at 12:14 PM, Ulf Stegemann wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Carsten,
>>>
>>> Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> wrote:
>>>
>>>> So it remains a kind-of specialistic thing.
>>>
>>> no, I wouldn't say so. textarea seems to have become quite popular in
>>> HTML online documentation. Apart from all the copy and paste stuff,
>>> textarea can do a virtual wrap or give you a horizontal scroll bar. This
>>> is nice if you have literal text with long lines that can or should not
>>> be wrapped but should also not exceed you layout's horizontal limits.
>>> I'd guess this is the main reason, why textarea is widely used to give
>>> literal examples.
>>
>> OK, so maybe this is more main-stream than I thought.  And, as Sebastian
>> just reminded us, we do have switch processing in examples already
>> in place.
>>
>> So I will put it in, just using a "-t" option at the example (or src)
>> block, and -h and -w options for width and height (cannot use -r for rows,
>> because -r is already taken.....)
>
> OK, it is in:
>
> #+begin_example -t -w 80 -h 20
> ...
> #+end_example
>
> HTH, thanks for the idea.
>
> - Carsten
>
>>
>>
>> Eric, no action for org-blocks necessary.
>>
>> - Carsten
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Nevertheless, the textarea block is certainly just a nice-to-have and
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* Re: [IDEA] HTML-export literal examples to textarea
  2009-01-19 22:16               ` Carsten Dominik
  2009-01-19 22:32                 ` Sebastian Rose
@ 2009-01-20 11:34                 ` Ulf Stegemann
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Ulf Stegemann @ 2009-01-20 11:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jan 19, 2009, at 6:16 PM, Carsten Dominik wrote:
>
> OK, it is in:
>
> #+begin_example -t -w 80 -h 20
> ...
> #+end_example
>
> HTH, thanks for the idea.

Great! Works like a charm. Thank you for implementing it :)

Ulf

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