From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Matthew Jones Subject: Re: Re: suggestions of Android smartphones Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 20:54:54 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87zl0zpym9.wl%ucecesf@ucl.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0159488459==" Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1O41kG-0007Xw-Qr for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 20:55:20 -0400 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=35471 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1O41kE-0007Xo-33 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 20:55:19 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O41kB-0003IW-Eo for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 20:55:17 -0400 Received: from mail-qy0-f194.google.com ([209.85.221.194]:45399) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O41kB-0003II-80 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 20:55:15 -0400 Received: by qyk32 with SMTP id 32so5481379qyk.12 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 17:55:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Daniel Martins Cc: Richard Riley , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org --===============0159488459== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364ee60ec4b76a0484a08741 --0016364ee60ec4b76a0484a08741 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Maybe I misunderstood what you meant about the "swipe" feature. There is a keyboard called Swype which is fairly overrated. I can't comment on how well or if a bluetooth keyboard would work... I think if I were going to go to the trouble of carrying around a keyboard I would rather just carry my netbook. 73, Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB) http://matburt.net On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 7:12 PM, Daniel Martins wrote: > 2010/4/19 Matthew Jones : > > I used swype for about 2 days on my droid before getting rid of it... > it's a > > good concept that needs be iterated on. > > I could not follow your comment here > > > > Trying to use emacs from any of the Android shells is borderline > > impossible... unless you have a full keyboard to hook up to your Android > > phone then I would say you should rule out using it in that fashion. > > A bluetooth keyboard such as > > http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.34724 > http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.6443 > http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.28954 > > > is possible to be used with an Android phone? It worths an investment? > > > Daniel > > > One of the features I'm working on for the MobileOrg beta (along with > being > > able to capture notes and change todo states) is a home screen widget > that > > will show your Agenda or Todo list, this way you don't have to open the > > application to view or adjust these items. > > 73 > > Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB) > > http://matburt.net > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Daniel Martins > wrote: > >> > >> The device I was tantalized to buy was the > >> > >> Motorola Quench > >> > >> maybe mainly for Swipe feature > >> > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWpqsDnXIOY (at about 1:00) > >> > >> or maybe for the price (in Brazil is about 500 USD while the Milestone > >> is about 780 USD. I know both are outrageous prices in American or > >> European terms!). BTW the Quench in Brazil DOES NOT seem to come with > >> the swype feature... > >> > >> In fact, I doubt I could edit in Emacs or similar in a phone. I am > >> afraid of virtual keyboards and small physical keyboards as well :) > >> For someone over forties I tend to do not consider these typing > >> devices as toys or at least funny :) > >> > >> For this reason I think that a nice interface such as MobileOrg with > >> agenda view would be the best. > >> > >> ConnectBot seems to be an option as well (when you have connection, of > >> course!) > >> > >> Sven, you seem quite happy with a virtual keyboard. Am I right? > >> > >> Daniel > >> > >> 2010/4/19 Richard Riley : > >> > Eric S Fraga writes: > >> > > >> >> On Sun, 18 Apr 2010 11:07:32 -0300, Daniel Martins > >> >> wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>> --- resending with a proper title --- > >> >>> > >> >>> Matthew, > >> >>> > >> >>> Just a suggestion for newbies. > >> >>> > >> >>> Could you generate a video of MobileOrg Android similar to those of > >> >>> the MobileOrg Iphone. > >> >>> > >> >>> I am still open to suggestions of Android smartphones. > >> >>> > >> >>> If I need to access a remote ssh account and open Emacs, the > available > >> >>> keyborards are OK? > >> >>> > >> >>> Daniel > >> >> > >> >> I have the same questions! My current mobile phone contract expires > >> >> in 3 months and I'm looking at upgrading to an Android phone. The > >> >> current best deal I have found is for the Samsung Galaxy Portal, aka > >> >> the i5700. [1] I'm looking at upgrading to replace my Nokia internet > >> >> tablet (n810) and non-smart phone with one unit. The nokia does a > >> >> really nice job of running emacs and org-mode, mind you. > >> >> > >> >> I'm particularly interested in knowing how the different handsets > >> >> approach the keying in of keys like C-x, M-x, TAB, et al. > >> >> > >> >> Thanks, > >> >> eric > >> > > >> > > >> > +1 on this. I had almost decided on the Motorola Milestone (Droid) but > >> > would love to hear others experiences. Using org-mode in a term emacs > is > >> > not ideal because a lot of shift/arrow/fn chords dont work in the > >> > terminals > >> > I tried (xterm, urxvt etc) and so doubt they will on a mobile device > >> > either : so my hard core usage of only emacs -nw inside urxvt and tmux > >> > soon dwindled and I'm back to using emacs in X. The only problem I now > >> > have is not being to find a way to use ONE x frame with emacsclient > >> > being able to create it if its not already done (I bet I've missed > >> > something obvious but emacsclient -c always creates a new frame and > >> > emacsclient wont create it if its not already there on my emacs). > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > >> > Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > >> > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > >> > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > >> > > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Emacs-orgmode mailing list > >> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > >> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > >> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > --0016364ee60ec4b76a0484a08741 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ma= ybe I misunderstood what you meant about the "swipe" feature. =A0= There is a keyboard called Swype which is fairly overrated.

=
I can't comment on how well or if a bluetooth keyboard would work... I = think if I were going to go to the trouble of carrying around a keyboard I = would rather just carry my netbook.

73,
Matthew W. J= ones (KI4ZIB)
http://matburt.net


On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 7:12 PM, Daniel = Martins <daniel= emc@gmail.com> wrote:
2010/4/19 Matthew Jones <mat@matburt.= net>:
> I used swype for about 2 days on my droid before get= ting rid of it... it's a
> good concept that needs be iterated on.

I could not follow your comment here


> Trying to use emacs from any of the Android shells is borderline
> impossible... unless you have a full keyboard to hook up to your Andro= id
> phone then I would say you should rule out using it in that fashion.
A bluetooth keyboard such as

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.34724
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.6443
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.28954


is possible to be used with an Android phone? It worths an investment?


Daniel

> One of the features I'm working on for the MobileOrg beta (along w= ith being
> able to capture notes and change todo states) is a home screen widget = that
> will show your Agenda or Todo list, this way you don't have to ope= n the
> application to view or adjust these items.
> 73
> Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB)
> http://matburt.net
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Daniel Martins <danielemc@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> The device I was tantalized to buy was the
>>
>> Motorola Quench
>>
>> maybe mainly for Swipe feature
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DzWpqsDnXIOY =A0(at about 1:00= )
>>
>> or maybe for the price (in Brazil is about 500 USD while the Miles= tone
>> is about 780 USD. I know both are outrageous prices in American or=
>> European terms!). BTW the Quench in Brazil DOES NOT seem to come w= ith
>> the swype feature...
>>
>> In fact, I doubt I could edit in Emacs or similar in a phone. I am=
>> afraid of virtual keyboards and small physical keyboards as well := )
>> For someone over forties I tend to do not consider these typing >> devices as toys or at least funny :)
>>
>> For this reason I think that a nice interface such as MobileOrg wi= th
>> agenda view would be the best.
>>
>> ConnectBot seems to be an option as well (when you have connection= , of
>> course!)
>>
>> Sven, you seem quite happy with a virtual keyboard. Am I right? >>
>> Daniel
>>
>> 2010/4/19 Richard Riley <rileyrgdev@gmail.com>:
>> > Eric S Fraga <ucecesf= @ucl.ac.uk> writes:
>> >
>> >> On Sun, 18 Apr 2010 11:07:32 -0300, Daniel Martins
>> >> <danielemc@gmai= l.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> =A0--- resending with a proper title ---
>> >>>
>> >>> Matthew,
>> >>>
>> >>> Just a suggestion for newbies.
>> >>>
>> >>> Could you generate a video of MobileOrg Android simil= ar to those of
>> >>> the MobileOrg Iphone.
>> >>>
>> >>> I am still open to suggestions of Android smartphones= .
>> >>>
>> >>> If I need to access a remote ssh account and open Ema= cs, the available
>> >>> keyborards are OK?
>> >>>
>> >>> Daniel
>> >>
>> >> I have the same questions! =A0My current mobile phone con= tract expires
>> >> in 3 months and I'm looking at upgrading to an Androi= d phone. =A0The
>> >> current best deal I have found is for the Samsung Galaxy = Portal, aka
>> >> the i5700. =A0[1] I'm looking at upgrading to replace= my Nokia internet
>> >> tablet (n810) and non-smart phone with one unit. =A0The n= okia does a
>> >> really nice job of running emacs and org-mode, mind you.<= br> >> >>
>> >> I'm particularly interested in knowing how the differ= ent handsets
>> >> approach the keying in of keys like C-x, M-x, TAB, et al.=
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> eric
>> >
>> >
>> > +1 on this. I had almost decided on the Motorola Milestone (D= roid) but
>> > would love to hear others experiences. Using org-mode in a te= rm emacs is
>> > not ideal because a lot of shift/arrow/fn chords dont work in= the
>> > terminals
>> > I tried (xterm, urxvt etc) and so doubt they will on a mobile= device
>> > either : so my hard core usage of only emacs -nw inside urxvt= and tmux
>> > soon dwindled and I'm back to using emacs in X. The only = problem I now
>> > have is not being to find a way to use ONE x frame with emacs= client
>> > being able to create it if its not already done (I bet I'= ve missed
>> > something obvious but emacsclient -c always creates a new fra= me and
>> > emacsclient wont create it if its not already there on my ema= cs).
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Emacs-orgmode mailing list
>> > Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
>> > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.or= g
>> > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
>> >
>>
>>
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>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list
>> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
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