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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.06 X-Spam-Score: -1.06 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 3F9885C572 X-Migadu-Scanner: mx1.migadu.com X-TUID: LFwPD0c0RUVC On 23/07/2023 21:13, Jens Schmidt wrote: > Gnus can have a global Message-ID cache, but it's not on by default (at > least not in Emacs 28, haven't checked others).  And anyway, it's a > potentially incomplete *cache*, and not an *index*. Thank you for clarification. Certainly just Message-ID is not enough without the index. > For nntp groups you already have the option to store links as web links > to groups.google.com, by means of `org-gnus-prefer-web-links'. I believe that links may be converted to web archives either to open or to export them. In a document I would prefer a more general form like news://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.orgmode/b0d3fee0-0dc9-a7ee-32dd-478297cb6b2d@vodafonemail.de though group name is redundant. In Thunderbird links to known articles work reasonably well I do not think, mid: links are ideal, but it is off-topic in this thread. For storing links I would avoid volatile parts like mail folder where a message *currently* resides or name of virtual folder/group specific to user configuration as well as application-specific URIs. I admit that due to gnus design, group names are unavoidable for some backends. I do not see a better way than the approach implemented in the suggested patch.