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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1682353562; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=OaJIM5DXOjWMlhv/mbmayFLfokPGSwdZwLnQ8RB1N/y3fIb3W7xldBUKuOjSiz0jIhK+FB vvzJltqJW2QaS0sqzvGAkpM1AsJWiLMu10iO6QR5zRtQyAMEBCaEsrx1dOj0VumdYTvpJc wJwn3dh2ekc1Nxqq/SzbhPVfnbXSRBBRecSGstK/xYej9IQkhIoauIvMkkKibJjI594Uf2 bbwCynQueO+lbBSwh6ysVM2wGQTF/rRRh4HvwEqEldZhk+tm6VaG2fdfBBmxxZ5cXhU2ch eOApyhC9IL3jt6H/QNjpHS/5FZYYbtuOj8x3ZahPWCQ2uGjDxAl0+uVqebw8Yw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1682353562; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=PSub1TgE6vjEiFhzevX/8F3Vbi5Ld1GKUnpwCp1YTf0=; b=mKwpxBoaKDdnaP1qlOfKznLO5gdkPjds06Ydx6cEXEdoKIj3QVzl4m8Jibi55VyXs9AmBh xBwPtsnFVDlwoQ+Nt88YYCBUu7NQ9T2Fm2VcJ/0rZrhz79DkuuvRSRnFPirPRVmLDWRspM rzOFFiAhY7jxtLgWoj+KbxD7EEUwUthS308bswkzKAHOvV9PdJhGit66FuBtE+bG6vxCTl Vx6INa/BZOE/KV+ym+XauFs8hmhcVUhDPsNb2qZ8QKvCEZvdDLA0ou8gipRcbTu5jI9IQK c2ChzG1gfCsPzavoLGHxDgBbD4gEKMC1hrgMcD4y39rmj7Wo9TDmQZS5lbZaMA== X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: 4.99 X-Spam-Score: 4.99 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: D2BE21BCB4 X-TUID: dVwSyn0waojm On 11/04/2023 17:08, Ihor Radchenko wrote: > Tim Landscheidt writes: > >> But there is calendar-week-start-day which I would expect >> affected Emacs users to have customized. > > It is not at all obvious that Org should be affected by calendar > customization. And we use different default - Monday, while > calendar-week-start-days defaults to Sunday. In general, I agree that Org should respect `calendar-week-start-day'. However since different defaults are currently used (US vs. Europe conventions), I would wait till support support of calendar properties from Unicode Common Locale Data Repository. Users who have not customized value should not notice change.