From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp11.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms9.migadu.com with LMTPS id OKM7DO+aMWQLdAEASxT56A (envelope-from ) for ; Sat, 08 Apr 2023 18:48:47 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp11.migadu.com with LMTPS id yBNPDO+aMWSaowAA9RJhRA (envelope-from ) for ; Sat, 08 Apr 2023 18:48:47 +0200 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E6FE6297DD for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2023 18:48:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1plBj8-0005Sg-5I; Sat, 08 Apr 2023 12:47:46 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1plBj4-0005RD-Db for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Apr 2023 12:47:44 -0400 Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1plBj2-0008FP-BI for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Apr 2023 12:47:42 -0400 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1plBiy-0008cv-BY for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Apr 2023 18:47:36 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org From: Max Nikulin Subject: Re: [PATCH] Autoload `org-assert-version' and remove org-loaddefs.el Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2023 23:47:29 +0700 Message-ID: References: <874juewk4k.fsf@kyleam.com> <87r0xi5jx7.fsf@gnu.org> <87o7obn0dp.fsf@localhost> <877cuzmreg.fsf@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.9.0 Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <877cuzmreg.fsf@localhost> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geo-emacs-orgmode@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: 27 X-Spam_score: 2.7 X-Spam_bar: ++ X-Spam_report: (2.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD=1, FORGED_MUA_MOZILLA=2.309, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.249, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.113, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1680972526; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=O/JOJxeJx9DxDqa8DYLHf5Txo28TZk14p6lYKSyWasWFNnTvugY7hU9UnrqOUfP3M1JvH6 nZno+txWpYRZon/xTrDEa+3eYVeRE2k1rPOMlavxrYTuK49CUaJL2p7ULsBdJCTdU95bxS fgU9Q6S8KLiIaoMEPxE0TzcYTuhC5XblSExHwMb6BKhVoriMGBIamo7GjjsryaPlyDDte6 uiYXDgJjYEnUhr4I9HYx+fo7dFxk4IzSuHqjf/fhzLTwZeQYXrkCzeokDQMQb33YUDZJ7c cYtUAWDi5aCepH352ZPbeDCsbgssnUCGD8fvRY0nUEfyewkblRneQIWD3OSoHQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1680972526; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=NdT0WccAefgdDUtKo/jL+4Vup18bstH8uqAzYcTmkok=; b=qbgbjcKjqAVarAizlUxH1f8g+a3WOx0sT9pEb5Ozq2Bxy7qFXKQixgTba4JKE7F344s7KI jQi5lAo8pjUkkdo56s1VqgSUOCVHLfoRJGtRukwu8AgPT4x4ljVRFaHu/suiU4Y7aTHL3+ dCICLpL5ZHzuPb4pSm4L0KnNIzllsfDaBTi67rbP/BhDUMmD7oRIf/u3ltYs+Nqnhi1gdi XyXoKd9Cq0kMTbsOOZBoXRxxlaqTfionTSnEisBfS88w5QactT9FEpfT2KYbfSaj7AFuf2 ynphHsrLuJTQSffNPZaejV7WoljBhVA7KcZDLdb0pi+MJ1eNEz0rtalmoWITzQ== Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.72 X-Spam-Score: -2.72 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: E6FE6297DD X-TUID: KgU0RhvvFzgB On 29/03/2023 23:52, Ihor Radchenko wrote: > I was able to reproduce on Debian using virtual machine. > Also, several people were able to reproduce in Matrix when I asked them. > And we got one report from Fedora user. + Several from Ubuntu users. > Recently, there was also > https://old.reddit.com/r/orgmode/comments/123qnqq/workaround_for_orgassertversion_problem_not/ I would consider adding to ELPA README and Org manual something like: If compiling of ELPA packages causes a lot of warnings related to `org-assert-version' then delete just installed Org package, start new Emacs session ensuring that Org is not loaded (-q?) and try to install from such clean state. I never expected that result of compiling may depend on whether the directory with built-in Org contains besides .elc files gzipped sources .el.gz (as after make install) or original .el files. https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=59882#134 (sorry, I sent this message without Cc to emacs-orgmode.)