From: Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [POLL] Should we accept breaking changes to get rid of Org libraries that perform side effects when loading?
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2023 22:14:01 +0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <tvsbrv$110b$1@ciao.gmane.io> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <874jq8ohbr.fsf@localhost>
On 26/03/2023 00:45, Ihor Radchenko wrote:
> I am then CCing Bastien, as, despite the Elisp convention, following it
> will break https://bzg.fr/en/the-software-maintainers-pledge/
I hope, it may be mitigated to some degree, e.g. loading of
`org-modules' and `org-babel-load-languages' may include their
activation. Perhaps `org-require-package' should activate the loaded
package as well.
If it is possible to avoid user prompt in org-ctags then migration may
be done in 2 steps separated by a year: add new require helper and do
not activate by default. Unsure if it is possible to add some warnings
on first step that activate function is not called.
> (defun enable-feature (feature &optional filename noerror)
> "Load and enable FEATURE.
> FILENAME and NOERROR arguments are the same as in `require'."
> (when (require feature filename noerror)
> (let ((enabler-cmd (intern (format "%s-enable-function" feature))))
> (and (fboundp enabler-cmd) (funcall enabler-cmd)))))
I would prefer activating on first call only, subsequent calls should be
no op.
> (defun disable-feature (feature)
I had a hope that existing `unload-feature' is enough.
My idea was something like `org-require' that is (require feature) and
(feature-activate) or (feature-activate-function) *once*.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-03-27 15:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 112+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-03-21 3:36 org-ctags land grab Nick Dokos
2023-03-21 16:40 ` Rudolf Adamkovič
2023-03-22 12:03 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-23 5:14 ` Nick Dokos
2023-03-23 10:49 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-23 14:50 ` Max Nikulin
2023-03-25 17:45 ` [POLL] Should we accept breaking changes to get rid of Org libraries that perform side effects when loading? (was: org-ctags land grab) Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-27 15:14 ` Max Nikulin [this message]
2023-03-28 10:02 ` [POLL] Should we accept breaking changes to get rid of Org libraries that perform side effects when loading? Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-27 16:10 ` [POLL] Should we accept breaking changes to get rid of Org libraries that perform side effects when loading? (was: org-ctags land grab) Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-03-28 9:55 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-08 4:19 ` [POLL] Should we accept breaking changes to get rid of Org libraries that perform side effects when loading? Bastien Guerry
2023-08-08 8:48 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-08 13:29 ` Bastien Guerry
2023-08-09 7:48 ` Max Nikulin
2023-08-10 19:50 ` Nick Dokos
2023-08-11 7:36 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-11 9:44 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-12 12:46 ` Bastien Guerry
2023-08-12 22:18 ` Samuel Wales
2023-08-13 8:59 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-14 0:57 ` Samuel Wales
2023-08-14 10:34 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-14 13:19 ` Fraga, Eric
2023-08-22 15:15 ` Bastien Guerry
2023-08-23 9:33 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-24 11:39 ` Bastien Guerry
2023-08-24 11:44 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-24 12:08 ` Bastien Guerry
2023-08-24 12:15 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-24 12:36 ` Bastien Guerry
2023-08-24 12:40 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-24 12:48 ` Bastien Guerry
2023-08-24 12:56 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-24 13:01 ` Russell Adams
2023-08-24 13:33 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-24 13:41 ` Russell Adams
2023-08-24 13:47 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-24 13:02 ` Bastien Guerry
2023-08-24 13:36 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-24 13:43 ` Russell Adams
2023-08-25 9:16 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-24 14:08 ` Bastien Guerry
2023-08-25 2:59 ` spookygostee
2023-08-25 9:53 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-25 9:44 ` [DISCUSSION] Re-design of inlinetasks (was: [POLL] Should we accept breaking changes to get rid of Org libraries that perform side effects when loading?) Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-25 17:58 ` [DISCUSSION] Re-design of inlinetasks Juan Manuel Macías
2023-08-26 10:58 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-26 11:42 ` Juan Manuel Macías
2023-08-26 12:33 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-26 14:21 ` Juan Manuel Macías
2023-08-26 16:33 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-26 17:31 ` Juan Manuel Macías
2023-08-26 17:43 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-26 19:19 ` Juan Manuel Macías
2023-08-27 9:21 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-27 17:25 ` Juan Manuel Macías
2023-08-31 9:15 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-26 18:01 ` Russell Adams
2023-08-29 13:00 ` Russell Adams
2023-08-30 11:49 ` Alain.Cochard
2023-08-30 12:36 ` Russell Adams
2023-08-30 14:06 ` Alain.Cochard
2023-08-30 14:31 ` Russell Adams
2023-08-30 14:39 ` Alain.Cochard
2023-08-30 15:08 ` Russell Adams
2023-08-30 15:13 ` Russell Adams
2023-08-30 18:32 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-24 12:53 ` [POLL] Should we accept breaking changes to get rid of Org libraries that perform side effects when loading? Russell Adams
2023-08-24 13:04 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-24 13:11 ` Russell Adams
2023-08-24 13:41 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-24 13:49 ` Russell Adams
2023-08-25 9:18 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-24 14:20 ` Russell Adams
2023-08-24 13:23 ` tomas
2023-08-24 13:29 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-24 13:36 ` Russell Adams
2023-08-24 13:44 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-24 14:00 ` Russell Adams
2023-08-25 2:48 ` spookygostee
2023-08-25 9:52 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-24 13:50 ` tomas
2023-08-25 9:49 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-24 12:11 ` Russell Adams
2023-08-24 12:21 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-24 14:43 ` Max Nikulin
2023-08-24 23:07 ` Samuel Wales
2023-08-24 23:23 ` Samuel Wales
2023-08-24 23:24 ` Samuel Wales
2023-08-25 9:56 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-25 9:56 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-26 8:59 ` Fraga, Eric
2023-08-26 12:30 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-27 13:16 ` Fraga, Eric
2023-08-22 15:40 ` Russell Adams
2023-08-13 8:53 ` [DISCUSSION] The future of org-mouse.el and org-inlinetask.el (was: [POLL] Should we accept breaking changes to get rid of Org libraries that perform side effects when loading?) Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-13 9:33 ` [DISCUSSION] The future of org-mouse.el and org-inlinetask.el Bastien Guerry
2023-08-13 10:29 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-14 7:48 ` [POLL] Should we accept breaking changes to get rid of Org libraries that perform side effects when loading? Tom Gillespie
2023-08-15 14:10 ` Timothy
2023-08-15 14:38 ` Russell Adams
2023-08-15 15:21 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-15 18:58 ` Tom Gillespie
2023-08-16 10:24 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-09 22:30 ` Or probably just fix the org-ctags hook functions? (was: Should we accept breaking changes ...) Jens Schmidt
2023-08-10 19:56 ` Or probably just fix the org-ctags hook functions? Nick Dokos
2023-08-11 7:37 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-11 17:01 ` Nick Dokos
2023-08-11 21:40 ` Jens Schmidt
2023-08-11 21:48 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-11 22:43 ` Jens Schmidt
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