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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.90 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmx.net header.s=badeba3b8450 header.b=Te1ZLSzA; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), DKIM not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=caramail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: D13699402A7 X-Spam-Score: -1.90 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: mfCY4fmW2/ok > Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2020 at 12:13 AM > From: "TRS-80" > To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > Subject: Re: Org Capture Menu cannot be fully viewed > > On 2020-12-12 17:46, pietru@caramail.com wrote: > >> From: "TRS-80" > > > > The problem also exists when making capture templates. The solution > > could be additional functionality coded in elisp that can then be used > > for handling longer template entries. As the problem is dependent on > > screen size, the problem is likely to occur, requiring the patch. It > > then becomes natural that the fix is introduced without the template > > developer having to call the fix explicitely. > > All true! > > > I assume it would involve some elisp and would be willing to word > > towards > > a solution. But it would be even better that the solution would be > > incorporated in the official version of emacs. > > What gets into Org / Emacs is up to maintainer(s?) and pending list > discussion. Which might take some time, but in many cases (I imagine > even including this one) is probably The Right Thing to do. That is understood. > If you can wait for that, it will end up improving Org and likely > helping a lot of people, including yourself (eventually). > > I guess some times I just prefer my own local "quick and dirty" solution > which can be "good enough" or a workaround pending a more proper > solution. Although, to be fair, the ability to maintain such solutions > (long term) is sort of dependent on knowing a bit of Elisp. So it's a > bit of a trade-off. > > I can send a long capture template. And any additional information > > people > > require. > > Well, it's up to you. If you want we can pursue either option, or both > (one potentially as a temporary workaround). Or we can wait for more > list replies and see what others think. As I said there may also be a > better way I am not aware of. If I'm being honest, I have plenty other > things to work on, too. ;) But since I open my big mouth now, I can't > very well leave you hanging, now can I? :D It also depends on how > complicated stuff we are talking... Very good of you. If you let me give a basic long template (perhaps "Investigation Site"). I can do both, get a fix, and work for an Emacs incorporation . > Actually, another option just occurred to me. I don't know where you > are sending results of the capture template, but if you are just > appending to file(s) perhaps you could break the one big template up > into some number of smaller ones? One problem with that is that new entries are appended in vertical (newlin= e) and cannot put options in a table. > Cheers, > TRS-80 > >