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From: daniela-spit@gmx.it
To: Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, 44935@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#44935: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting user options
Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2020 17:59:06 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <trinity-0ffdeee9-bf2b-42f2-8611-f33086a57807-1606669146939@3c-app-mailcom-bs11> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <X8PMXhbf6c9gUrLo@protected.rcdrun.com>

Correct, everything tells you it is part of Emacs.  Then one sends a report and people
start sending in in a long winded road to find the appropriate channel.

You look at "Emacs Asking for help" and "Emacs Reporting bugs" and you get only two things
help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org and bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org.  Have been following discussions here
and people herd together telling others they are doing everything backwards. And insisting
everything is fine, makes serious people not happy at all.  I do not want to hurt anyone,
but there exists a wall between maintainers and users who basically use Gnu Tools to do
something else.

> Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2020 at 5:29 PM
> From: "Jean Louis" <bugs@gnu.support>
> To: "Eli Zaretskii" <eliz@gnu.org>
> Cc: daniela-spit@gmx.it, 44935@debbugs.gnu.org
> Subject: Re: bug#44935: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting user options
>
> * Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> [2020-11-29 18:08]:
> > Shouldn't this be reported to the Org developers?
>
> We have discussed that Org is part of Emacs and users shall be at all
> time welcome to report their bugs and pointers can be made how to
> closer report to Org mailing list. It makes it confusing to users, and
> is not logical. Org is part of Emacs so it is Emacs bug.
>
> While there is pointer under Org menu how to report the bug, it is not
> as obvious as "Help - Report Bug". So sometimes Org bugs will arrive
> here.
>
> Org bugs should be then simply forwarded to mailing list or tagged as
> being Org so that they may be picked up by mailing list.
>
> I find this more mailing list manager job to properly forward bugs.
>
> For Org one can submit {M-x org-submit-bug-report RET}
>
> For this bug, I do not think it is bug. Isn't it for all variables
> like that that when they are customized by user on top of the init
> file that they customization during the session will overwrite the
> customizations set by user on top of the init file?
>
> If this is so how I think, then users who do not want Emacs to
> overwrite their customization in init file should not use the
> customize for those variables. Then the user's customization will take
> effect.
>
> I do not see differences here with org-agenda.
>
> Are there any?
>




  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-11-29 17:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <trinity-80d8aadc-661f-4964-b2d6-28992e59cda7-1606599247632@3c-app-mailcom-bs11>
2020-11-29 15:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-29 15:12   ` daniela-spit
2020-11-29 15:37     ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2020-11-29 15:52       ` daniela-spit
     [not found]   ` <X8PMXhbf6c9gUrLo@protected.rcdrun.com>
2020-11-29 16:59     ` daniela-spit [this message]
     [not found]       ` <X8PY831MFXCGSLMO@protected.rcdrun.com>
2020-11-29 17:53         ` daniela-spit
2020-11-29 18:08         ` daniela-spit
2020-11-29 23:51           ` Tim Cross
2020-11-30  0:05             ` Christopher Dimech
2020-11-30  8:42               ` tomas
     [not found]         ` <trinity-57e444a4-55c2-4674-884b-bec92da370e5-1606673304407__39253.1388950133$1606673463$gmane$org@3c-app-mailcom-bs12>
2020-11-29 18:20           ` gyro funch
2020-11-29 18:31             ` daniela-spit
2020-11-29 21:20               ` Kyle Meyer
2020-11-29 21:32                 ` daniela-spit
2020-11-29 21:51                   ` Re[2]: " Gyro Funch
2020-11-29 22:10                     ` daniela-spit
2020-11-30  0:09                       ` Tim Cross
2020-11-30  0:26                         ` Christopher Dimech
2020-11-30  0:59                           ` Tim Cross
2020-11-30  1:27                             ` Christopher Dimech
2020-11-30  2:50                               ` Tim Cross
2020-11-30  3:19                                 ` Christopher Dimech
2020-11-30  5:16                             ` Jean Louis
2020-11-30  0:51                         ` daniela-spit
2020-11-30  1:20                           ` Tim Cross
2020-11-30  5:42               ` Jean Louis
2020-11-29 17:21     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-29 17:39       ` Glenn Morris
2020-11-29 17:59         ` daniela-spit
2021-06-01 15:42           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen

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