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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1669223028; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=q0k6m47rWNuN3PXG8q1tummogYloY5wrlf/p7z6MPB4=; b=ioFbySBfyQ8/IYWvgYUtLh92khTRtZ1IB/vjDpimsUQaCv0Zrj0ipA5LoeqxIvyZvd4RoN WqpmHvY5weipuRzDCe7Ic8/+cPmYrbN6rNBnA0Q3H0mWXuVI4mCTCftiCPWpdxQ875rjBu z2YQ7biRgyWNQKmN7rMbiNwiOj/z/+Ym1rtbsZ3bV+4rtrCgEv0tykeo3mSdpXYhN1f0Ge 4oqWx1HjfrchcW+vJiblUSrbjT0Yfc2gZwRcSP1xjzjd0nKhQVDQuGCIEgBC7XzYwMyEGP y6rvuFKfY6WFg/VoViIJblTFPKJTI0/yoSyJpeBSC9Gd9sNkiOmizdCw+eVwdA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1669223028; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=BLzEroiC/+2aCPDQEz/TwUeVOaH/V0Ezy12P/bdtdXGTawLmsqOXvl3kqfkC84nfsu+2sl Kvck/okwVeRkQHuVX1XWRqnRnLCF8ALV7lPnf7rLf6/3CmR+jX2tNU/+k5xjudgJkS6fUc K9aXe8Tus0yXmsvlhLzn+wcgVYXr5ql1/AKvw5Jg5Ze4oG1ckPRCCSGpFKV8jB1S3CBilp DtVGgBiwwPTLfR7qydbbHtEs4L3V7xkOlvL5Bafh2x8qe7LhFaR3jKYpUba+pWg8ZMRQm6 zrncrUr/F/jEAfroW7REPDETdRFS0rsTKFVLAdTy5gg7EsgIy9xS0A96CKZXTQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: 2.71 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 00D6032621 X-Spam-Score: 2.71 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: RXXcU3bLk9wh On 23/11/2022 22:27, Max Nikulin wrote: > > (setq lst '("semana" "señor" "sepia")) > (sort lst #'string-lessp) ;         => ("semana" "sepia" "señor") > (sort lst #'string-collate-lessp) ; => ("semana" "señor" "sepia") > > On 23/11/2022 17:37, Ihor Radchenko wrote: >> Eli even argued that `string-collate-lessp' is strictly worse compared >> to more predictable approach. See >> https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=59275#40 I think, Eli is afraid of the following sort of inconsistency (string-collate-lessp "z" "ö" "de_DE.UTF-8") ; => nil (string-collate-lessp "z" "ö" "sv_SE.UTF-8") ; => t Mixed language example: U+0049 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER I vs. U+0406 CYRILLIC CAPITAL LETTER BYELORUSSIAN-UKRAINIAN I (sort '("Івана" "Ivan" "Термін" "Вони") (lambda (a b) (string-collate-lessp a b "uk_UA.UTF-8"))) ("Вони" "Івана" "Термін" "Ivan") (sort '("Івана" "Ivan" "Термін" "Вони") (lambda (a b) (string-collate-lessp a b "en_US.UTF-8"))) ("Ivan" "Вони" "Івана" "Термін") I suppose users should get result native to their languages even though others may get another order.