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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1666708707; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=nvM+WNuhhnneQqR638kxVmwAR/dPmg+InFDg7oPEtRw=; b=W7OoqHLj2ZX3rITnxRSOduI9KwpnoNV6DsPMOliZ1pZ7edgULxMc70Xgx9RdMkc84mshKR N0tX3H0BREn87RFC6Za+KLAr/apOGjv2yBo1io2riI42v8OGKGLEbI8tAMd4ywSrw/4Rvu CfzXz2ABhOVqUid88lyJxYbc8FkGiZQl7s6yeWqY0/2Nh/ro5KdxigrCtREwubdgeLi66A RZ2RYyqvTjlX0W60l6FdCCGY+zFjeuQFKMAJRbkEcq59hoJsvqOLpYZCoHCZ3obtOa2lY1 yDMKeMatJdSSx5yGrBSzT/r1CaEf54HonD8HdGmNqNoqg0Oz/CHBxxu/2Jtz3g== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1666708707; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=KN+PxW/UuNVkBr2rL2bTyAlRkngzCnGYI1Qmj/YKLpcFSx2f/gHOeVZNReo1BUuDhfiQhT RzTlWj8aFbBMxa/NDFBwPQ7NaLY650bixi2mrKOqblZmjtgTNou7ncLPtv5roVfN4TR1NK w1lPtYygLB1OPGFAFXQwaydI9idKstK3Ns9ZpUvW8XWHDGXvxUAAYraTxPkOjC86tu3j0t hmEPw8QJ9TWuVhOmWzLsE1LRKzUCrP4x7uMI2udbn/q3lQVHaQf11LQ0JBT4cmOgBTzjNr pQLWi6ibW7h9lOnczqCV/AP925DREeWva8xyLNpokmeDplFeDOyWmOWQ+1cPdQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: 2.79 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 97F542E8E2 X-Spam-Score: 2.79 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: JqBkSjOTGhsc On 23/10/2022 22:16, Juan Manuel Macías wrote: > > As I am beginning to have serious eye fatigue problems, I am thinking of > buying an e-ink device, not to read books but to read documents. My idea > is that it be an Android device and that it supports the installation of > apk, to be able to install Termux/Emacs/Org-Mode and Nextcloud to sync > with my desktop PC or my laptop. E-ink displays are slow (my device was manufactured 15 years ago but I do not expect dramatic improvement), so applications should be heavily optimized to provide acceptable experience. I do not think that Emacs is suitable. The wonderful property of reflective display is that its brightness follows ambient conditions. (Almost) direct sunlight during image refresh (page switching) may cause low contrast noisy image. A workaround is to move the book into shadow or close cover for a moment. For static image bright light is not a problem. I am curious if pdf-tools is able to display annotations created on devices with stilus.