From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp11.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms5.migadu.com with LMTPS id mDRqLVnlLWNZ9gAAbAwnHQ (envelope-from ) for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2022 18:56:57 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp11.migadu.com with LMTPS id mOB3LVnlLWPbeAAA9RJhRA (envelope-from ) for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2022 18:56:57 +0200 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 667D5E1E0 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2022 18:56:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:40900 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oblyy-000874-5i for larch@yhetil.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2022 12:56:56 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33354) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oblxl-00086r-RR for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2022 12:55:41 -0400 Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:59896) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oblxk-00071a-6b for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2022 12:55:41 -0400 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oblxh-0003r8-L0 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2022 18:55:37 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org From: Max Nikulin Subject: Re: orgmode.org welcome page says to install via MELPA but as writing, this cannot be done Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2022 23:55:28 +0700 Message-ID: References: <871qs6ygmv.fsf@gnu.org> <87bkrasnla.fsf@localhost> <871qs6li9l.fsf@gnu.org> <874jx2wqgi.fsf@tec.tecosaur.net> <87tu4z2uil.fsf@bzg.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.11.0 Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <87tu4z2uil.fsf@bzg.fr> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geo-emacs-orgmode@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: 28 X-Spam_score: 2.8 X-Spam_bar: ++ X-Spam_report: (2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD=1, FORGED_MUA_MOZILLA=2.309, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.249, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-To: larch@yhetil.org X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1663952217; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=Li/Mv64zyDA/H3tf6zqnWHBA4KWCKNwy9Y4RB+1hpcM=; b=RQ52t2mdvJU1lJC6CRqV0+mzN1u5Z7SAAeHoH6Qm1C5DaOslwe8ssQ7sPpALV5ubiM+F1Q Zp49wh7orCslKD7LeqDdj6e26fXXCQNDEOq8sUtex7yKFwtNkQ+QNHaQbJtilQnGpd2yoD KkcoyquahJiG0bmYKbfjcqCbwTfl43M4asD8ashitGD62faPNimsVjAR0u2e/yqB5Azgk+ RQL88Bt8bEd5PWIW+0179p1vLYSQYhcGA35hkJUij2NMkAb5roFC917UiFqHY3csXyow0p 2ACPTlprxz0yLRdF5XNqxz1HAKZSDBuxL9EFLpWbJHuZxKOycm0FgrurFVYbDQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1663952217; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=WH13JD62A2C39XfHxbq3lT+BjBqKxQl5Ul6lvKa/GFoc1oLqBVMZPqQBhBn4KcKs7xRypN FDq7eu4RWAN0RZon1PZ/1MGNQASuuZ5Sx08FE5AiVcKlN3ZVuHsMFpk7W/NeEktBdt+qZM esA7OdNeuFeKCgJs3wImQWt89dy8kiRoHePDIlgwZb90q1W8MQdD1ovOEwcfZvvqQC3D43 7v1Sf5TTz0gfQ74OvAoK8avpH4FbqNj7yMTyEauDuAUtpHm/UCqqE9ryhXR5iHtiv1bnV+ yVLzlzCMsTPJ/VxS+zu0jo1/XrlyDHobUnQ9vk3Arrf4avKeJSCN96N8xzR1wA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: 2.85 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 667D5E1E0 X-Spam-Score: 2.85 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: 3+MJUkGh1eTt On 23/09/2022 00:23, Bastien wrote: > Max Nikulin writes: > >> The updated page has >> >> alt="Install from ELPA" >> >> that likely should be "Install from GNU ELPA". > > Fixed, thanks. > >> However Firefox does not show tooltips (unlike for the Librepay link) >> when mouse cursor is over new SVG images. I have no idea if >> screenreaders will use value of the alt attributes. > > I added title="" properties. "Install from ELPA" without "GNU". >> I expect that some fraction of messages at this list will have "[BUG] >> " subject literally. Perhaps "&body=..." may be >> added with a template like "Org version: ___, Emacs version: ___" with >> a note requesting subject more specific to the particular >> problem. Some people still will not read it. > > Agreed -- I removed this mailto: link as suggestion in a previous > reply to Tim... I am not against mailto: link, my intention was to improve message template. >> An unrelated to the latest changes question. What is the supposed way >> to reach https://orgmode.org/manual/Feedback.html from site main page >> (to become aware of M-x `org-submit-bug-report'? > > ... and placed the https://orgmode.org/manual/Feedback.html link as > the target of the "feedback" svg icon. > > I also added the M-x org-submit-bug-report RET exlpicitely, as it is > something we want users to discover very soon. My impression is that this change is against Timothy's attempt to make the top banner cleaner. I would consider adding a paragraph with org-submit-bug-reports and Feedback.html link close to the "Joining the mailing list" section and would make "report bug" badge leading to this paragraph. "Feedback" badge link may point to "Joining the mailing list".