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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-To: larch@yhetil.org X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1656988852; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=jL95Ye8cL8qwQpk9ObJ5jTEH2V3Us3KVzBSApiFabIU=; b=nJWfbnLk1dYR2d7SBc7XAYniWHyOI4DVW6J79k8/S11skRU4sPSKMIm2bSB6ZNB7u9v/jp dA8mRf/CCZj1Uwmz3qOKV2hRYmRbGYb6P9zVM6GWB+vscbJbrsDI5AFx54ePvRtdWl+jJJ aSOEsH0BYZrSSbLrd+AOpD+qs0ry6bYAOMItBKd+5Nm+4BS7Le32imYuxaBDmXZE5BE63b j9aj3+N/onCHg5lAsxLSjgpwlZ2s+0fsok3VXt1gLm9JACVpL0qtdAJ+zZO5upZXGa9eHq ydNF6POaL/rxttgG44L0A1GnfSrQsd4NXpvjLrOYQwT1VHy9+PpIlp19i2B3vA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1656988852; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=BoKuOo5njyS72hJ13wLzkhlr+RpEYuhd5xKt1wR91eY1c85+nLVHvs6rGrTOgJb7QPbUgA SV+cCz24Wiocz9vKj/EIREto9J5Knas/svDvawtiK+13uNCanW+nXpa5Jwr9QgEBa1/M1J 201Uq4fyjJd9hx/z/CzG40F2juu9aBcDivz/3WJTKG3iTb7RxAnzSrujA3tOo2iMaEtOM7 X6xSef2zKMFrKnDAhsZ+H8oLr0PfRkM63gccGcYJrbRfXQ2xkZ0CdRxdyBLvN4YTA6IxXT UHHmq+2dYvq7ObPfcaW+bPe3ZJ7zlQG8Ex4eqyEafHuj9lcZNFRQPTM+ALsFVA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: 2.75 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 2F22D3CAF4 X-Spam-Score: 2.75 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: 4khDsGALJYKb On 05/07/2022 05:37, Tim Cross wrote: > Max Nikulin writes: >> >> However it seems, Bastien earlier configured a set of rewrite rules mapping old file names >> with more lower case letters to new ones. In my opinion it is the best option and it >> should be restored. List of files may be committed to git (either Org or site) to detect >> changes later and to add new mappings when some file disappears. > > > Are you sure about that. There is nothing along these lines in the nginx > config file that I can see. Also, my reading following that thread you > provided earlier was that Bastien thought the overhead to manage such > lists was too high? Bastien. Re: Possible bug report: URL capitalization in online manual. Mon, 10 Feb 2020 07:48:21 +0100 https://list.orgmode.org/874kvzdjka.fsf@gnu.org/ > I've now installed the rewrite rules on the server and all these links > are redirecting correctly. Given the amount of Org documentation links > living out there, that's really a good idea. I did not check it that time, so I can not be really sure. The rules might be lost during migration to deployment using SourceHut. My expectation is "301 Moved Permanently" redirection for obsolete file names. I do not think, a hundred of redirection rules gives significant overhead. I attributed Bastien's "too much" to maintaining documentation for several versions of Org. A part of original problem (if I get it correctly) was mix of old files survived from earlier versions of the manual and current ones. Certainly removing of outdated files was a proper step. Tim Cross: > At this point, my vote is to just do a basic updated 404 page that > points to the index.html page for orgmode.org For the manual and for the guide directories I still consider links to the table of contents (or even full table of contents) on 404 pages as a better variant.