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From: Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: About 'inline special blocks'
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2022 23:39:17 +0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <t8ss7m$6se$1@ciao.gmane.io> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87bkunb1e5.fsf@posteo.net>

On 21/06/2022 02:06, Juan Manuel Macías wrote:
> Max Nikulin writes:
> 
>> I would like to stress that styles can not be a rescue in some
>> important cases. Let's leave aside ad hoc final tuning of formatting.
>> In the case of HTML export there are still <img alt="Description"> and
>> <a href="..." title="Description"> attributes that are namely
>> per-object, not part of style.
> 
> You are right, but my question is: Could there be a similar use case
> within inline special blocks? Keep in mind that this (for now,
> hypothetical) element type would be intended only for very short
> segments of text within the paragraph. I don't find a scenario where
> it's worth overloading that with options and attributes, IMHO.

Juan Manuel, your answer is not clear for me. Direct formatting is 
another issue. There are cases when attributes are part of *content*, 
not formatting. If alternative text for images and description of links 
are not convincing, there is e.g.

     Org document may be exported as
     <abbr title="HyperText Markup Language">HTML</abbr> file.

Do you consider inline special blocks solely for formatting and only for 
the kind of it that may be expressed through styles? Then attributes for 
inline objects should be another feature with its own syntax.

>>> in html:
>>> <name>contents></name>
>>
>> Concerning <name> vs. <span class="name">, is it the same for
>> assistive technologies like screen readers to add
>> <strong>text</strong> (or <b>text</b>) and <span
>> class="strong">text</span> with "font-weight: bolder;" in CSS?
> 
> "<name>contents></name>": it was my confusion, sorry. I already explained
> it here: https://list.orgmode.org/8735g0tnoh.fsf@posteo.net/

I am unsure that <name>content</name> should not be supported at all. 
However I admit that difference of the following code may be 
insignificant in reality:

     <strong class="alert">Do not do it!</strong>
vs.
     <span role="strong" class="alert">Do not do it!</span>



  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-21 16:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-23 14:30 About 'inline special blocks' Juan Manuel Macías
2022-05-23 15:20 ` Kaushal Modi
2022-05-23 21:06   ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-05-24  2:36     ` Tim Cross
2022-05-24  2:51       ` Timothy
2022-05-24  6:54         ` Eric S Fraga
2022-05-26  7:30           ` Christian Moe
2022-05-24 15:09         ` Max Nikulin
2022-05-25  7:22           ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-05-25 17:05             ` Max Nikulin
2022-05-26  2:54               ` Merging paragraphs separated by comment lines during export (was: About 'inline special blocks') Ihor Radchenko
2022-05-24  3:56       ` About 'inline special blocks' Ihor Radchenko
2022-05-24 14:05         ` João Pedro
2022-05-26  4:56           ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-05-26 11:30             ` João Pedro
2022-05-26 12:20               ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-05-26 17:35                 ` João Pedro
2022-05-26 21:22                   ` About opening issues vs email [Was: About 'inline special blocks'] Kaushal Modi
2022-05-27  4:24                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-05-27  4:36                     ` João Pedro
2022-05-25 13:55         ` About 'inline special blocks' Juan Manuel Macías
2022-06-17  6:28         ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-17 19:49           ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-06-19 12:47   ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-06-19 19:30     ` Christian Moe
2022-06-19 20:15       ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-06-19 22:18     ` Tim Cross
2022-06-20 16:57     ` Max Nikulin
2022-06-20 19:06       ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-06-21 16:39         ` Max Nikulin [this message]
2022-06-21 18:19           ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-06-20 22:46       ` Tim Cross
2022-06-26  4:07         ` Org mode export accessibility (was: About 'inline special blocks') Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-26  6:29           ` Tim Cross
2022-06-26 10:46             ` Org mode export accessibility Juan Manuel Macías
2022-06-26 10:54               ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-27 14:40                 ` T.V Raman
2022-06-30  7:53                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-07-07 14:18                     ` briangpowell
2022-07-07 14:42                       ` T.V Raman
2022-07-08  4:38                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-07-08 13:55                           ` T.V Raman
2022-07-09  3:39                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-07-09 13:20                               ` T.V Raman
2022-09-30 11:07                         ` Max Nikulin
2022-09-30 13:29                           ` T.V Raman
2022-09-30 16:43                             ` Max Nikulin
2022-09-30 16:55                               ` T.V Raman
2022-10-01  4:36                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-01 14:59                               ` T.V Raman
2022-10-02  2:54                               ` Org source in PDF (Re: Org mode export accessibility) Max Nikulin
2022-10-02  3:50                                 ` Timothy
2022-07-07 14:43                       ` Org mode export accessibility T.V Raman
2022-07-07 15:37                       ` T.V Raman
2022-07-08  4:33                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-07-08 13:54                         ` T.V Raman

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