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From: Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Org-syntax: Intra-word markup
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2022 22:28:55 +0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ste7vp$hj0$1@ciao.gmane.io> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <871r0q8zg6.fsf@posteo.net>

> Ihor Radchenko writes:
>> Keeping in mind the above analogy, note that export blocks do not have
>> fallbacks, while special blocks do (for example, see
>> https://github.com/alhassy/org-special-block-extras/)

Ihor, I am sorry, but I missed your point. That project provides some 
set of defined link+block pairs and some macros to define new 
links/pairs. I do not see relation to export snippets or blocks that are 
used when their content is not intended to be reusable.

>> Maybe we should introduce an equivalent of special blocks, but for
>> inline use? Or should we modify _both_ inline export snippets and export
>> blocks to allow fallback mechanism?

I suppose, it should be consistent to consider adjacent export blocks as 
alternatives and to allow "fallback" or "default" block. Again, similar 
to @@:...@@ snippets, block content should be parsed as Org markup.

On 29/01/2022 20:05, Juan Manuel Macías wrote:
> I find the idea of inline special blocks very interesting, but I think
> there are a couple of drawbacks: since special blocks support ATTR_X,
> how would that be implemented in the inline version? The most obvious
> thing I can think of is to mimic inline code blocks:
> 
> my_special_block[attributes list]{content}

ATTR_X attributes are supported for links as well, see
info "(org) Links in HTML export"
https://orgmode.org/manual/Links-in-HTML-export.html
However it is rather verbose, may have problems with LaTeX, and I am 
unsure if they can be accessed from export link handlers

Actually I do not like src_something[...]{...} syntax since there is no 
clear mark (such as "\") at the beginning that it is a special construct.

> In any case, for things like that, aren't links and macros enough?

Ad hoc code for particular backends (and discussed fallback for other 
backends) is a bit different thing. It may be used in macros, but macros 
can not replace it. Moreover @@:...@@ construct proposed by Tom would 
allow e.g.
    [[https://orgmode.org][@@:*inter*@@@@:/word/@@]]
to be half-word bold and half-word italics without invisible zero width 
spaces and filters to remove them.



  reply	other threads:[~2022-02-02 17:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-02 10:50 Denis Maier
2021-12-02 11:18 ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-12-02 11:30   ` Juan Manuel Macías
2021-12-02 11:36     ` Denis Maier
2021-12-02 12:01       ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-12-02 11:42     ` Marco Wahl
2021-12-02 11:50       ` Denis Maier
2021-12-02 12:10         ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-12-02 12:40           ` Denis Maier
2021-12-02 12:54             ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-12-02 13:14               ` Juan Manuel Macías
2021-12-02 13:28                 ` Denis Maier
2021-12-02 12:48           ` Max Nikulin
2021-12-02 12:02       ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-12-02 12:00     ` Ihor Radchenko
     [not found]       ` <87r1avtdjy.fsf@ucl.ac.uk>
2021-12-02 12:27         ` Denis Maier
2021-12-02 13:06           ` Eric S Fraga
2021-12-02 12:28       ` Denis Maier
2021-12-02 12:55         ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-12-02 11:58 ` Timothy
2021-12-02 12:26   ` Denis Maier
2021-12-02 13:07     ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-12-02 15:51       ` Max Nikulin
2021-12-02 18:11         ` Tom Gillespie
2021-12-02 19:09           ` Juan Manuel Macías
2021-12-04 13:07             ` Org-syntax: emphasis and not English punctuation Max Nikulin
2021-12-04 16:42               ` Juan Manuel Macías
2021-12-02 20:47           ` Org-syntax: Intra-word markup Denis Maier
2021-12-02 22:44             ` Samuel Wales
2021-12-03 14:53           ` Max Nikulin
2021-12-03 23:51           ` Tim Cross
2021-12-04 15:01             ` Max Nikulin
2021-12-05 23:34               ` Russell Adams
2021-12-05 23:37             ` Russell Adams
2021-12-06  1:39               ` Samuel Wales
2021-12-02 19:03       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-12-02 19:34         ` Juan Manuel Macías
2021-12-02 23:05           ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-12-02 23:24             ` Juan Manuel Macías
2021-12-03 14:24         ` Max Nikulin
2021-12-03 15:01           ` Juan Manuel Macías
2021-12-04 15:57           ` Denis Maier
2021-12-04 17:53             ` Tom Gillespie
2021-12-04 18:37               ` John Kitchin
2021-12-04 21:16                 ` Juan Manuel Macías
2021-12-06 10:57                 ` Raw Org AST snippets for "impossible" markup Max Nikulin
2021-12-06 15:45                   ` Juan Manuel Macías
2021-12-06 16:56                     ` Juan Manuel Macías
2021-12-08 13:09                     ` Max Nikulin
2021-12-08 23:19                       ` Juan Manuel Macías
2021-12-08 23:35                         ` John Kitchin
2021-12-09  7:01                           ` Juan Manuel Macías
2021-12-09 14:56                             ` Max Nikulin
2021-12-09 16:11                               ` Juan Manuel Macías
2021-12-09 22:27                                 ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-01-03 14:34                                   ` Max Nikulin
2021-12-04 19:04               ` Org-syntax: Intra-word markup Timothy
2021-12-04 21:48                 ` Tom Gillespie
2021-12-06 10:59                   ` Max Nikulin
2022-01-28 14:52                   ` Max Nikulin
2022-01-29  3:13                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-01-29 13:05                       ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-02-02 15:28                         ` Max Nikulin [this message]
2022-02-02 20:01                           ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-02-03 12:10                             ` Max Nikulin
2021-12-06 11:01               ` Denis Maier
2022-01-28 12:12 ` [PATCH] Intra-word markup: \relax Max Nikulin
2022-01-28 13:13   ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-02-02 15:42     ` Max Nikulin
2021-12-02 13:36 Org-syntax: Intra-word markup autofrettage
2021-12-02 15:24 ` Robert Pluim
2021-12-02 17:11   ` autofrettage

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