From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp10.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id mCj3AaxO2GF4xQAAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Fri, 07 Jan 2022 15:31:08 +0100 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp10.migadu.com with LMTPS id +IdiNqtO2GHi/gAAG6o9tA (envelope-from ) for ; Fri, 07 Jan 2022 15:31:07 +0100 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7799921266 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2022 15:31:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost ([::1]:34302 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n5qGo-0001IW-CD for larch@yhetil.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2022 09:31:06 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:33710) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n5qFW-0001H3-2q for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2022 09:29:46 -0500 Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:58084) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n5qFU-0006PG-Kr for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2022 09:29:45 -0500 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n5qFS-0000pg-WD for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2022 15:29:43 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org From: Max Nikulin Subject: Re: A simple Lua filter for Pandoc Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2022 21:29:33 +0700 Message-ID: References: <875yqzu7rx.fsf@posteo.net> <87o84r4k2f.fsf@posteo.net> <87mtkaglfh.fsf@posteo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.14.0 In-Reply-To: <87mtkaglfh.fsf@posteo.net> Content-Language: en-US Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geo-emacs-orgmode@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: 1 X-Spam_score: 0.1 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (0.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD=1, FORGED_MUA_MOZILLA=2.309, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, NICE_REPLY_A=-2.691, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1641565867; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=DwbhF0OF1y2wGMR1BRY0acDwdEAJF0nPxsBqttGoxtE=; b=Qqpd/pyskzZ2mHis+PJ4HVOfBWtqqgsAsXOeCA3dHaR59lNAcZGeBUyCOjr6NNOkHZinFI 7XWvT2lwzcIFSAvzLOKCdULnDXmWBaHaRTiz4QJKKs6w+Bojf06yT8+1v60CxSp2H2aFhW duiwZ5thrkkSxHZ8lmfI2ZEmcHKidAmv14p18052Mj/hCkITqKZqereCwmrjm9Eg442Osn TDwkeKraxvzg/Lixcg1N4pFp9u1HZhjeUP7JmGiQgApi2fMBUCjBpWq0SxMd3oiBshupjo AiyGTsm8d7dEnZscijNJBvkE4zX460SM5oHa06yS+nLVNMqR4nmlfhk3dtT+9w== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1641565867; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=SUbNWu9PIMSrq2WxXG4olXa4fqmyGqUP/JtoCUWbiHkuLVm/c66y7SkSBONbL4TyAYmS93 ldOm7S87cVYLL9VE91Noo4K7RUPWSupV6ZEUOECxLkmlxyhhZmRhlXwiQIa87MthimorD+ EVLVjZ5vuShs7yhqw78ve+N/yZdij3U1xl8mr+wtr1qCIrmu/slkDAAz4hUOwMBf5oEEYO ukVh2H4KGXp9x7hHQ8j39Q0NTVV9MitZIL5e7I/dkGnsxRxcEqJuc4UbSHk77vKrc0v8YI CmGXN3iykHmuAZAEoTbLY9Sh74EQcGx3hZPOBb/Vr37MRdJqjBoDn7k/XGWW3A== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.80 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 7799921266 X-Spam-Score: -2.80 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: MG4g5XFCvYY5 On 06/01/2022 00:08, Juan Manuel Macías wrote: > Max Nikulin writes: > >> It seems, lightweight markup is more annoyance than advantage for you. >> Tom posted some thoughts on more rigorous syntax in the following message: > > It's generally the opposite: working in Org is a pleasant journey for > me... except when there are dozens of "/" and "*" in a document, and > they placed in 'unhappy' positions. For example, in phonetics the > "/ ... /" notation is used a lot, and there may be cases like: > > #+begin_example > /foo/ /bar/ /baz/ > #+end_example Unless you were seeking for a lightweight markup I would remind you about macro: ---- >8 ---- #+macro: ph @@x:@@/@@x:@@$1@@x:@@/@@x:@@ /{{{ph(foo)}}} {{{ph(bar)}}} {{{ph(baz)}}}/ ---- 8< ---- Form my point of view it is not worse than "\slash{}" entities. LISP can bee easily transformed to a domain specific language by means of LISP macros (it is its strong and weak side simultaneously). I am unaware whether a comparable framework exists for creating custom lightweight markups. In LaTeX for your examples I expect something like \phonetic{foo} commands to have logical markup. Certainly with some hints /foo/ in particular part of text might be considered as "phonetic" rather than "italic" in intermediate representation keeping source easily readable. > https://i.imgur.com/f6X7qLs.png In this example there is no need to replace "<" by entity since it can not be confused with links.