From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp0 ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id iMNSJX/KpGGaEQAAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2021 13:41:35 +0100 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp0 with LMTPS id EEwZIX/KpGEfFQAA1q6Kng (envelope-from ) for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2021 12:41:35 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3F8C31D04C for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2021 13:41:35 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost ([::1]:42856 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mrfyQ-00040Q-63 for larch@yhetil.org; Mon, 29 Nov 2021 07:41:34 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:53052) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mrfw0-0003yp-2x for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 29 Nov 2021 07:39:06 -0500 Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:35506) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mrfvx-0006IT-Jh for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 29 Nov 2021 07:39:03 -0500 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mrfvu-0003u1-O6 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 29 Nov 2021 13:38:58 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org From: Max Nikulin Subject: Re: "Orgdown", the new name for the syntax of Org-mode Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2021 19:38:44 +0700 Message-ID: References: <2021-11-28T20-44-37@devnull.Karl-Voit.at> <75ce32ea-616b-0293-1eb5-f9b64afd42ed@gmail.com> <16F7037A-6055-4500-AE04-72DAC60DBA8E@gtf.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.14.0 In-Reply-To: <16F7037A-6055-4500-AE04-72DAC60DBA8E@gtf.org> Content-Language: en-US Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geo-emacs-orgmode@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: 15 X-Spam_score: 1.5 X-Spam_bar: + X-Spam_report: (1.5 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD=1, FORGED_MUA_MOZILLA=2.309, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.248, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.248, NICE_REPLY_A=-1.317, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1638189695; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=bmrsvGz3TiaD5vEYgkr7m48CmYPY3uBkWfgD+W9mld4=; b=tD7VEnourkp8YGdBTrD81a14x2sujWc/JOoW3C/0czsli2loE+bsavPCrBrxRGHpkNSC+W q01KvXgmEQsQJ4MTEjQLomiq3GQCR3Ef6yvaRfhROquxpR1n4nwjK9S7lBSA4KxLkSYif3 W4BLNGOxhf+dFvppPiNvAVY+ezAOFY3kw9AtCsI73P4vADepZhAtYaT7Z1jNfeZDEHQMJc 0FEk3nwFr8L1WMtQbtEaLJ42eGlYxQWvNZelx/chmDW48cHOBandKwbFFa8hzdtZhqCXw/ DXYqnsuAxjyCwOXvUnFnqS/PLIESMBzjDjryy9bCe2YvLzOy2YQslEU6DzMR8w== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1638189695; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=DwUYEAc7/Rd1ekgRhP70DV76PNkqy6qLoxS+V9FDdNUvgXn/97K+DFtSX2S9+xGQ04MKcV fNdVAAUg+jIW6tyINJ0F4NoC0wiFynzp1Onbj8OnIHLNy+f0saXmuL4H9y3c0JVfWVQf4i WMNUydZA9qziOuBJQPQigfqadkt74zukvI6mKK2y3ktVV3VLMj0gq2hEnJr2SbY2bbIoJC 2m1K3CvQENcR8XjJApTg6RVYNM3xNTkDEM82M7vR7LnJ4YRBL73PKC3cobxeaWSy5VJ9Dw 8V265hLoWZNKNO/mjPJSqtVIx1QWfNEN0eSD1el/hzJV3MekeRpxuX47POmFMQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.31 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 3F8C31D04C X-Spam-Score: -2.31 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: ECZC4HaI8sQW On 29/11/2021 09:33, Michael Ashton wrote: > >> On 11/28/2021 11:46 AM, Karl Voit wrote: >>> At this year's EmascsConf, I had a 12 minute video where I explain why >>> we do need a different name for the syntax of Org-mode in contrast to >>> the Elisp implementation of GNU/Emacs Org-mode. >>> I would like you to read my rationale and motivate you to use the term >>> "Orgdown" for the syntax and "Orgdown1" for the first (very basic) > > Perhaps orgtext or org-text? I like such variant even though "orgdown" sounds better. Another one: "text/org" ("slash" may be omitted in speech) as file format for Org Mode (as application). If you can not survive without a pun and funny formatting, then - "orgless" to emphasize that it lacks power of Org Mode. - "org<1" to denote compatibility levels. JSON format is not really human-friendly (in comparison e.g. to YAML), but the following representation of compatibility data for web-related technologies is great: https://github.com/mdn/browser-compat-data Recently I have noticed a number of issues with Org renderer at GitHub. I have not checked bugtracker of the ruby project (feel free to forward this list to the developers). I am unsure concerning appropriate compatibility level but it is annoying that verbatim text inside link description is not recognized. - =[[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1621763][Bug 1621763: [flatpak] native messaging support missing]]= square brackets inside link description breaks parsing of whole link (outer brackets, target, and description are shown). - Verbatim text as whole description is not recognized, markers are shown =[[https://orgmode.org][=org-capture=]]=, the same for =~code~=. ~[[help:org-refile][=C-u C-c C-w= ~org-refile~]]~. =\u200B= zero-width space inside brackets does not help. - "info:" links are not converted to HTML ones. - Footnotes and ~[fn:text]~ links are not supported. - ~src_elisp{(server-start)}~ appears literally. - =#+caption:= before =#+begin_example= block is not supported and absent in HTML output. - =#+attr_html: :alt= for images is not supported. - ~="* %(org-get-x-clipboard 'CLIPBOARD)"=~ ("=" and everything inside without outer "~") is not recognized as verbatim.