From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp2 ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id MBpMI8GmbWGLKgAAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 18:54:25 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp2 with LMTPS id MFDeHsGmbWGGWwAAB5/wlQ (envelope-from ) for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 16:54:25 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 304813ADBD for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 18:54:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:44304 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mcVu4-00083Z-C0 for larch@yhetil.org; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 12:54:24 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:42272) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mcVta-00083K-9i for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 12:53:54 -0400 Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:45132) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mcVtY-0006YJ-SX for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 12:53:54 -0400 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mcVtW-0009Ag-JW for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 18:53:50 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org From: Max Nikulin Subject: Re: [PATCH] [BUG] Org 9.5: org-goto UI seems broken Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 23:53:43 +0700 Message-ID: References: <87mtnovv7f.fsf@alphapapa.net> <87h7dvy70t.fsf@localhost> <87ee8zxwic.fsf@localhost> <878rz3ddet.fsf@gmail.com> <87czoaug5x.fsf@gmail.com> <87o87tso54.fsf@localhost> <87pms9mf7v.fsf@gmail.com> <878ryx14sd.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87fst46ifa.fsf@gmail.com> <87h7djdi7k.fsf@localhost> <87bl3pcvgl.fsf@localhost> <87zgr6y9ak.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.13.0 In-Reply-To: <87zgr6y9ak.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> Content-Language: en-US Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geo-emacs-orgmode@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: 28 X-Spam_score: 2.8 X-Spam_bar: ++ X-Spam_report: (2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD=1, FORGED_MUA_MOZILLA=2.309, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1634576065; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=Pm3bM9J6bW72wpVj8zfLrVTMHzK0Orevj9owLibE6jw=; b=CZhkTDUAGs+/YDv2hR+Ceh48kOgcW56ISEnxal2VcMJF6IL5OQMZ30CZNn725vykIymtpr 7DBQ1xYu8A4o9BMe+2qbRbNsb5cuI4o18OH7SlFJYRMlCHtpKCwY6q/8/Ip19qFup0XIgr i/pxPm9nZBPwg6QWqoFPyyJlfB/hXDuTuGRdNuuoSyvjnS8IgAK6Lt/TpsSTslHODMkIkm giZ7cgM1nG3YbnZIM1YsLkFY2gD5olFxkdgEHOtiiLsCQF/8F4BznRAp+tVhY3Mi4ezwYk zDddw9IG1f4lPX8AF7v7+KNUR8ADF8eHsB8tRZQ0O4talSi0oAAqGnCn7mTXUQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1634576065; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=cjFzkTG5SLZJ0pmFBGPBpfi9DOI9+/96rylZ9VEcte5B0pgClf9Ci59Y60bnqscyC91AFH jMF7AiZ6tFI1UvrZBiwamSEkKwzUndOU0WEQl+HwsRTNLs37dWRaCFBM8CwZ619wwrXOTp 5p085K/N0tjCzvr/KvT75cV+V+Cok9dhq6+UKQSeiPIBQteZmB4KwPOztISbZAmapltACV LTGLdjyQMCbvydEsdfYZE/lYY3bNvXFNqb8y1FqciXoIAprXQas6CpFKA5MRioN+uJaqqI YER4piVstHiF+84hvYwS5neFDlJiIMJrXtNHJ7vNzTQRP5u1RFFi7R8Mw+4ozg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.23 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 304813ADBD X-Spam-Score: -2.23 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: XkcOmXxYKN1P On 18/10/2021 16:25, Eric S Fraga wrote: > On Sunday, 17 Oct 2021 at 23:35, Max Nikulin wrote: >> So >> >> (setq display-buffer-base-action >> '((display-buffer-reuse-window display-buffer-pop-up-frame) >> (reusable-frames . 0))) >> >> should not be considered as shooting a foot. > > I am not sure I understand what you are or are not proposing but org > should not be setting this variable. This variable is for the "user", > not the package, to set. I was trying to say that even with such *user* setup, behavior of Org should be reasonable. In particular, with draft patch I posted, *small* org-goto help buffer should not cause appearance of a new frame despite of `display-buffer-base-action' setting cited above, that is suitable for *regular* buffers. User still has opportunity to request arbitrary action for "*Org Help*" buffer through `display-buffer-alist'. > I actually think that org imposes too much of its own view on how > buffers should be managed & displayed. I am constantly annoyed (and > posted about this recently to the list with no response) that capture > buffers pop up all over the place and it doesn't seem like I have any > control at all. I agree that behavior of `org-add-note' is extremely intrusive. On the other hand I have no idea concerning its preferred behavior by default. I do not think that something like `org-src-window-setup' should be introduced for notes and captures. Ideally it should have reasonable behavior by default and should be adjustable through `display-buffer-alist'. Currently I can not suggest a snippet for `display-buffer-alist' to exclude zoom or teams windows from candidates for `switch-to-buffer-other-window' (that is called from `org-capture').