From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp0 ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id oMeNFNucWWESdwAAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Sun, 03 Oct 2021 14:06:51 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp0 with LMTPS id GH4xENucWWHKdgAA1q6Kng (envelope-from ) for ; Sun, 03 Oct 2021 12:06:51 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B16BB14881 for ; Sun, 3 Oct 2021 14:06:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:47440 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mX0GX-0007N4-4f for larch@yhetil.org; Sun, 03 Oct 2021 08:06:49 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:36926) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mX0Ev-0006am-FT for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Oct 2021 08:05:12 -0400 Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:54640) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mX0Eu-00075V-4a for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Oct 2021 08:05:09 -0400 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mX0Eq-0007H1-Gr for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Oct 2021 14:05:04 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org From: Max Nikulin Subject: Re: [PATCH] Don't fill displayed equations Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2021 19:04:53 +0700 Message-ID: References: <87czoq7z3p.fsf@gmail.com> <87tui1ew1o.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <871r5599j7.fsf@gmail.com> <87pmspevjy.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87bl49kca3.fsf@gmail.com> <87ee95ekrh.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87ilygo4uh.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87a6jr3fq6.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87sfxjiumm.fsf@gmail.com> <87y27b1xga.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.13.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geo-emacs-orgmode@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: 28 X-Spam_score: 2.8 X-Spam_bar: ++ X-Spam_report: (2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD=1, FORGED_MUA_MOZILLA=2.309, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.249, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1633262810; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=WJrR6Oh8jRvvBax1mNG+gzm12uF1qpHdTE526oNehdY=; b=fslfMM0Ke2tcfM5g6pCVpKT4/EOD7RBCQ8H+Aj7EORhkwKXNcb5OITo691jlsYcNAmO6gs H87s7UvKB0NUR+4O2tpqek1NyoV2RSIzhqf/3r8zn6v/oPq7N4G+8+Xqstpq4IX1rJd2xd 58Yz28O79HVsolNpZf87238hbwKRvNYbGNyJsD9JbMjedc+BrrB91zoO5aOEwV0Z1iCZWV jQymsiDcUQkhvxPDr/c+mQBE0B2sj1wJKiFXFqiiCpE0z66NZDMAdV5A/Hz1bTjaAWjtDo zYugygTgfFGlOWDZemlRdiNja2C4LLcL2UUy48+DL0xNjS/cZAo/nhlngtfKgQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1633262810; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=pDk/2O/Hqb50Enqdub+aa4odi/ioF4pY0b7EHlKYxnaUFvaFnmsLnhxCf7i3MTo5PK1viB eBF8Bynrn8JaMXUbH3lKqi0TBj5rnGNM3WE0mRxDBAuzYKAgd/5pZ+fM5xWk9p9wdE3W7R DY+wZfHMI7xzhKMWpKcXVxDMgoN/tXqIs/adqqWH2TjtT+4By3zTK1Y6ILsSfqetnomxOh dTrYAM/u0X7R0O6Ht+ykDDr8iwxZ76RWhXHNrsdQf0vIMJg0W+OZzZ8amI8mwynNmE7UyD 1VnrMQYnj8H9e9THvvwfDCIgv5zC9hlFvzzjzfzShruK8MgkZgJoJJIgmday8g== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.81 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: B16BB14881 X-Spam-Score: -1.81 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: Kjhrn9nEekWj On 03/10/2021 17:56, Stefan Nobis wrote: > Max Nikulin writes: >> On 03/10/2021 00:51, Tom Gillespie wrote: > >>> I guess one thing I'm missing/not understanding is when/why people >>> want to use \[ \] instead of full #+begin_export latex block? > >> For example, because document without equations may become almost >> useless in the case of export to HTML or ODT file. > > Remember, as Nicolas said, the alternative to \[...\] is not a > "#+begin_export" block, but > > \begin{equation*} > ... > \end{equation*} Maybe you are right and Tom was actually assuming \begin{equation*}, not #+begin_export latex. Since Tom and Timothy started discussion of LaTeX preview issues, it was better to clarify that #+begin_export is not a rescue here at all, it has different purpose. Just as Timothy, I believe that \begin{equation*} is unnecessary verbose when \[ works *mostly* in a similar way. It shifts the border when it is easier to avoid Org for particular paper and to write LaTeX markup directly. Another branch of this thread is refactoring of `org-fill-element', but in my opinion, if \[ \] remains an inline object, adding a special case for it is anyway increasing overall mess. It \[ \] were became block-level element, it would not be necessary.