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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1626195489; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=99Z0R1Xflt8ufaUkZKTHD4aqM/UpA3yFzH/KZqKqdwE=; b=f22CWqJ/7eNtWFMCS1/OGX47IvKiEp315HBs1Qdh2WS1yAHdcbEyddjFeagjOgoB0q3U3G IxdKzqtRA+L2QBdlyz/WvoReumHSfuVsytqHLp8LJKYLobBHCPTt92Oti4beepk5nByD68 gLwN8C+SBKeRCls+4BuWGvnQdOT/fDM5aCQ39LcXcQpTkTGcWU5Hevw0gy8rzs+pgrpIMo VOyZ7MGHaH2It05HVKFRY483QACSH8vcuYD1fW/PLcr/fAn0lRCbc4R8+AjVy0aOY3oumf 668cNzxUhWXVm9Hn1icx/fw8ZmlWqFo3dOAJo8VPtUhNyyWFJY7AKJ7QO6YakQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1626195489; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=jKzOGkIp3nShVWgoK6xI8TkSnKpChHJBDKqgW8ETB98M6E87nM/d7g/zNKiaGR9r2WmWUy YwxZ7WRsLjT3ETk4R3U2SjkgU95APhJX+fE+CVdSvqQu+2n1Eo24HLD7OGWHLvTtQaAMXO Q272Oo/q1EijP9idSc/u4QHN50L6ynSfYCnRPRD6mrEWv6j4BsKzfwe+u0ktCZUGhRM4JU J9eQrWPwhaKwIzbuQ+oiLhQvyTDIjw0+2a/YRsvInDY+nylNwba7gmsSjFUqtPliSRXRj4 39YJMgqgC5iRq/6tRA1F+nDNSbJB8DCMQY1D8bx1o2/ls/FZMX/2IEhYanh9KA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.80 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 8D5264970 X-Spam-Score: -1.80 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: xYloA2UqFa7F On 10/07/2021 23:44, Stefan Nobis wrote: > Maxim Nikulin writes: > >> (add-to-list 'org-latex-inputenc-alist '("utf8" . "utf8x")) >> so I am unaware whether \usepackage[utf8x]{inputenc} has any drawbacks. > > Do not do this. Both, utf8x and ucs, are obsolete and deprecated for > quite some time. Maybe, I have seen such warnings. However I have tested neither utf8 nor utf8x on real examples. That is why I am unaware what can be broken in particular. For small examples with various symbols outside of ASCII, utf8x may give better support. Last time I did something serious with LaTeX, bibtex was 8bit internally (unicode version had not reached stable Linux distributions, pybtex was buggy), so that time I used 8bit charset. > For proper unicode support, switch from pdflatex to lualatex or > xelatex. With these newer backends (and proper adjustments for the > LaTeX preamble generated by Org) Unicode should work out of the box > (if the font supports the requested Unicode characters). Maybe my expectation from proper unicode support was too optimistic. I see the reason why preamble is necessary with 8bit encodings. I appreciate possibility to easily specify particular ttf or otf font. I do not like that it is necessary to specify *all* fonts, otherwise some characters are missed or compilation fails with error. I do not know if new engines allows to get list of available fonts and to choose a set of fonts with better coverage than lmodern. I have tried LuaLaTeX with the following file. From some examples I have found, I expect, further tuning is required. Apparent problem is missed unicode characters in math mode. I admit that polyglossia is unavoidable for any real text but I do not like that \set…font commands are mandatory. \documentclass{article} \usepackage{fontspec} \usepackage{polyglossia} \setdefaultlanguage{russian} \setotherlanguage{english} \setmainfont{CMU Serif} % breaks ∞ \setsansfont{CMU Sans Serif} \setmonofont{CMU Typewriter Text} \begin{document} Test¹ of superscript and ½ fraction. \textbf{Теорема.} \emph{Пусть} $α → ∞$ и $\beta \to \infty$. \verb=Катет= и \textsf{гипотенуза}. Åå. Text Greek α. \end{document} > (setq org-latex-default-packages-alist > '(("AUTO" "inputenc" t ("pdflatex")) > ("T1" "fontenc" t ("pdflatex")) I just have realized that fontenc behavior should be similar to inputenc and babel, e.g. something like \usepackage[T1,T2A]{fontenc} should be used for Russian.