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[2001:569:7c1c:f700:4ca3:d0ea:747b:be61]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id g3sm304869pgl.55.2020.11.03.18.46.00 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 03 Nov 2020 18:46:00 -0800 (PST) From: David Rogers To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Subject: Re: Tables: missing multi-col/row syntax References: <87k0v361x9.fsf@gmail.com> <877dr2680o.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2020 18:45:58 -0800 In-Reply-To: <877dr2680o.fsf@gmail.com> (TEC's message of "Tue, 03 Nov 2020 18:35:38 +0800") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::536; envelope-from=davidandrewrogers@gmail.com; helo=mail-pg1-x536.google.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: No matching host in p0f cache. That's all we know. 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Scanner: ns3122888.ip-94-23-21.eu Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=ZctyKi82; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.71 X-TUID: Byoc4kyZLdm5 TEC writes: > David Rogers writes: > >> IMO this can (and definitely should) be regarded as a purely=20 >> cosmetic problem, >> to be resolved by purely cosmetic methods. I think the idea=20 >> that each table cell >> is exactly one unit of information (and can=E2=80=99t be a collection=20 >> or array of units >> of information) is more important than this issue. >> >> In other words, I think it=E2=80=99s better to ridiculously overload=20 >> fontification and >> output formatting, than to sacrifice the main logic of how=20 >> tables currently >> work. I just don=E2=80=99t believe that it could be worth it. > > The appearance of the tables is purely cosmetic ... however when=20 > one > ends up maintaining three copies of the same table, I don't=20 > think that > dismissing it offhand as a "cosmetic problem" is a productive=20 > approach. I=E2=80=99m not using the word in a dismissive way; I=C2=A0just think fixin= g=20 the problem =E2=80=9Chead-on=E2=80=9C, solving a display problem by display= =20 solutions, is better than disruptively (and permanently) changing=20 the logic in order to improve the display. --=20 David Rogers