From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "Julian M. Burgos" Subject: Re: Sharing documents with bibtex bibliography from org to non-org users Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 15:16:58 +0000 Message-ID: References: <26f59a91-f9e1-3a95-13c9-300f97d40f16@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55735) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bZg77-0000gG-5u for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 11:17:14 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bZg72-00086D-SC for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 11:17:12 -0400 Received: from hafgarpur.hafro.is ([130.208.64.48]:48443) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bZg72-00085R-GE for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 11:17:08 -0400 In-reply-to: <26f59a91-f9e1-3a95-13c9-300f97d40f16@gmail.com> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" To: ldcmrtn@gmail.com Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Hi Martin, The best solution I found so far is to export to latex, and then use pandoc to convert the tex document into word. You can point pandoc to your .bib file, so the bibliography gets into the word document, doing something like this: pandoc --bibliography /home/julian/Documents/org_files/myrefs.bib -o mypa= per.docx mypaper.tex This works ok. Figures sometimes do not get inserted into the Word docum= ent, and there are other relatively minor issues. I have not bother looking very deeply to figure out if they can be solved, I just pass the word document to my collaborators for editing (so they can use the track changes options and so for), and I also send the pdf file (from latex) so they can see exactly how the document would look, in terms of figures and tables. When you get your reviews back, you need to manually insert them into your org document, which is a pain in the back. An alternative way is to pass the org document to your coworker, so they can edit them in word directly. They should ignore all the markup language, do not use the track changes option, and save the resulting document as a text file. Then you can incorporate the changes directly into your org file using ediff. But as you said, the markup language may turn off people that are not very friendly to some code and strange commands. A third way would be to export to odt. I think you can set the exporter so it uses libre office to convert the resulting file into .doc or .docx. I have not tried this very well, so I am not sure how this works with references, figures and tables. Hopefully somebody on the list may have a better option, All the best, Julian Martin Leduc writes: > Hi orgers, > > People using org-mode or LaTeX to write scientific papers inevitably=20 > face problems when time comes to share a manuscript with co-authors for= =20 > reviewing. Unless one decides to restrict the choice of his co-authors=20 > based exclusively on their knowledge of LaTeX, collaborators generally=20 > use Microsoft Word to write their documents. > > One way to share LaTeX documents with non-LaTeX users is to simply=20 > copy-paste the LaTeX file into a Word document. You can then share this= =20 > file with other people along with a pdf-compiled version of the=20 > manuscript allowing them to see all references, bibliography, equations= =20 > and figures. This is the most convenient approach for the first author,= =20 > who can simply copy-paste back the text into a tex file after the round= s=20 > of review and then compile the LaTeX manuscript again following some=20 > minor debugging. > > However, the latter approach may not be suitable in situations where th= e=20 > document is intended to stay into a word format for whatever reason. It= =20 > could be for instance because you want to be kind with some co-authors=20 > that wouldn't pay much interest into a scary document filled with=20 > complicated codes. > > So I would like to know what are the best known strategies to circumven= t=20 > the latter issue. To simplify, I accept that I will need to rewrite the= =20 > equations (and eq. numbers) in the Word document. What I really want,=20 > however, is all the citations and the list of references being managed=20 > automatically at the step of exporting from org to ODT or to Plain Text. > > The only solution I see now is to export the org document to a plain pd= f=20 > (e.g. with no page numbers) and then to copy-paste the pdf into a Word=20 > document. This strategy is cumbersome because a lot of work is generall= y=20 > needed to format the word document (page wrapping, no line breaks=20 > between paragraphs, words hyphenation, etc). > > Is there any cleaner solutions to this issue ? Or more general ideas on= =20 > how we could facilitate the sharing of documents containing a bibtex=20 > bibliography between org and non-org users ? > > Thanks > > Martin --=20 Julian Mariano Burgos, PhD Hafranns=C3=B3knastofnun, ranns=C3=B3kna- og r=C3=A1=C3=B0gjafarstofnun h= afs og vatna/ Marine and Freshwater Research Institute Sk=C3=BAlagata 4, 121 Reykjav=C3=ADk, Iceland S=C3=ADmi/Telephone : +354-5752037 Br=C3=A9fs=C3=ADmi/Telefax: +354-5752001 Netfang/Email: julian.burgos@hafogvatn.is