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From: Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: The less ambiguous math delimiters in tables
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2025 00:02:18 +0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <vl6gqs$m3s$1@ciao.gmane.io> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m234i4yibe.fsf@adamkovic.org>

On 31/12/2024 04:25, Rudolf Adamkovič wrote:
> Max Nikulin writes:
>> An extensive test suite is necessary to consider alternatives for
>> parsing rules.
> 
> Yes, that much is given.  Without an extensive test suite, working on a
> parser would be nothing but a waste of time, and the end result would
> be, at least for us humans, an infinite stream of bugs.

I do not say that there is no tests, but to change the parser almost 
certainly much more corner cases should be added. The format should be 
suitable for non-elisp tools.

Ihor Radchenko. [PATCH] org-test: Create a collaborative test set for 
Org buffer parser. Sat, 11 Dec 2021 22:39:07 +0800.
<https://list.orgmode.org/87fsqzi4tw.fsf@localhost>

>> Current logic may be roughly describes as the following. When Org
>> recognizes start of some element, it tries to find its end, mostly
>> neglecting opening markers. A fragment is parsed for nested elements
>> *after* boundaries of the parent element are determined.
> 
> Honestly?  That sounds like a wrong approach to parsing.  (And if that
> is the case, then that could explain why I keep fighting the Org parser
> on a daily basis, compared to practically never in every other language
> I use.)

I expect that pandoc-like parser may reduce number of pitfalls. However, 
having no experience with parsers, I will unlikely try to implement it. 
I would not be surprised if it is unfeasible without some parser 
generator since it should be bottom-up one. I have no idea how to 
collect real life cases when current behavior is better. Otherwise it is 
hard to estimate degree of disaster due to breaking change.



  reply	other threads:[~2025-01-02 17:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-24  9:20 The less ambiguous math delimiters in tables Rudolf Adamkovič
2024-12-24  9:25 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-25 17:56   ` Rudolf Adamkovič
2024-12-25 18:05     ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-25 20:14       ` Rudolf Adamkovič
2024-12-26  9:17         ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-26 13:31           ` Rudolf Adamkovič
2024-12-26 13:51             ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-27 13:23               ` Rudolf Adamkovič
2024-12-27 13:35                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-30 21:02                   ` Rudolf Adamkovič
2024-12-31 17:47                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-27 17:17     ` Leo Butler
2024-12-28 16:39     ` Max Nikulin
2024-12-30 21:25       ` Rudolf Adamkovič
2025-01-02 17:02         ` Max Nikulin [this message]
2024-12-31  5:43       ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-31 12:20         ` Rudolf Adamkovič
2024-12-31 13:32           ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-31 15:57             ` Rudolf Adamkovič
2024-12-31 16:46               ` Ihor Radchenko
2025-01-02 17:20             ` Max Nikulin
2025-01-02 17:32               ` Ihor Radchenko
2025-01-03 15:14                 ` Max Nikulin
2024-12-24  9:50 ` Rudolf Adamkovič

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