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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Spam-Score: 0.65 X-Migadu-Scanner: mx13.migadu.com X-Spam-Score: 0.65 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 062D465467 X-TUID: Qgh5PautPzmh On 12/02/2024 19:36, Ihor Radchenko wrote: > Max Nikulin writes: > >> I believe, there are enough issues with mailcap implementation in Emacs, >> but do we have some alternative? [...] > > I have been digging more on this issue recently, and I have found that > Carsten once attempted to tweak this default to use xdg-mime: Have you faced another issue with mailcap? Frankly speaking, I am unsure what particular issues we are going to address (file type, Emacs and Org versions, OS). Did you intentionally mentioned "xdg-mime"? While xdg-open tries to find suitable .desktop file to open a file, xdg-mime is more close to the file(1) tool, but it consults signatures from shared-mime-info and site&user config files. In addition, unlike file(1), it uses file extensions to guess media type. An advantage of mailcap.el is that it should allow users have Emacs-specific Emacs-wide configuration for viewers. In principle it should be more reliable when invoking emacs through xdg-open when Emacs is configured as a handler for some media types. Is it necessary to modify Org? Maybe an alternative is to add "xdg-open %s" for */* to `mailcap-user-mime-data'. > I believe that xdg-open issue has been fixed by you in > https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/org-mode.git/commit/?id=5db61eb0f > org.el: Avoid xdg-open silent failure I am still not really comfortable due to the strategy to start external processes diverged from methods used in browse-url.el. I have not had a look into xdg.el yet.