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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.98 X-Scanner: ns3122888.ip-94-23-21.eu Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmx.net header.s=badeba3b8450 header.b=AIixoVAH; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-TUID: prQGKEkyOEjs Sent: Monday, November 30, 2020 at 1:09 AM > From: "Tim Cross" > To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > Subject: Re: bug#44935: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variabl= e, overwriting user options > > > daniela-spit@gmx.it writes: > > >> Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2020 at 10:51 PM > >> From: "Gyro Funch" > >> To: daniela-spit@gmx.it, "Kyle Meyer" > >> Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > >> Subject: Re[2]: bug#44935: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files v= ariable, overwriting user options > >> > >> > > >> >> Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2020 at 10:20 PM > >> >> From: "Kyle Meyer" > >> >> To: daniela-spit@gmx.it > >> >> Cc: "gyro funch" , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > >> >> Subject: Re: bug#44935: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files = variable, overwriting user options > >> >> > >> >>daniela-spit@gmx.it writes: > >> >> > >> >> >> From: "gyro funch" > >> >> [...] > >> >> >> If I'm not mistaken, all of the development is done by volunte= ers. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Perhaps you could help resolve your issue instead of asking ot= her > >> >> >> people, who are likely already overworked, to shoulder the bur= den. > >> >> > > >> >> > Is there a mailing list for abuse? If I want abuse I shall ask= for it. > >> >> > Loser! > >> > > >> >> I don't see anything that gyro said as abuse. Name calling, on t= he > >> >> other hand, has no place on this list. > >> > > >> >One asks for help, and people tell you to go fix it yourself. If th= ere > >> >is any disrespect, you bring it upon yourselves. And now you start. > >> >Another Gnu Goon. > >> > >> I have found that people on this list are extremely friendly, courteo= us, > >> and helpful. > >> I suggest that you look back at the way you asked for/demanded help a= nd > >> the various responses you gave in this thread. > >> Taking on an attitude of entitlement and showing a lack of respect fo= r > >> others, their perspectives, and efforts may not be the best way to ge= t > >> help. > > > > Nonsense. > > Not nonsense at all. You responses have become rude and unhelpful. I can > understand how you may be frustrated by the bug reporting situation, but > your response to that frustration has been to complain and be critical i= n > a very non-constructive manner. You have now descended into name calling > and personal abuse. You are beginning to exhibit behaviour > which is not welcome here and which will result in people ignoring your > posts. Multiple people have now pointed this out, which should make you > stop and think rather than become emotional and respond defensively. > > the ball is now in your court. How you respond will influence how others > respond to your requests and suggestions going forward. Look. First I was an an emacs mailing list, then was told that it was not the right place. Then was directed to sent it here, etc etc. Then all th= e talk about being volunteers and only do things when they like. WTF! > -- > Tim Cross > >