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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Org-Mode mailing list Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.91 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmx.net header.s=badeba3b8450 header.b=jRreD5H6; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), DKIM not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=caramail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: B94749402B0 X-Spam-Score: -1.91 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: tlhr2X1Pf/JN 1. Capture Option Selection =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D C-n, C-p, C-v work well and one can go through the capture menu easily. Below the capture buffer, I am seeing another buffer that is displaying ev= ents from the mouse (triple-mouse-1, down-mouse 5, ...) and keyboard (down up u= p, ...) that ends getting bigger and bigger and bigger. It is the buffer in which the user enters the option. It does get bigger than one line, finally taking up most of the frame. And the user can do nothing about that - that is you cannot drog the mouse to resize it. Not being able to resize the window can become a very big bother when using org-capture. 2. Problem with %^{prompt|default|completion2|completion3...} =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Consider the following prompt template. When I select "a", one gets =2D------ org-carture -------- * 7 Via Appia and Catacombs Site: Investigation: %^{Investigation|...|Historic Background Research Site Ev= aluation or Testing|Systematic Survey Data Recovery or Excavation|Records = Search or Inventory Checking|Site Stewardship Monitoring|Site Stabilizatio= n|Heritage Management|Environment Research|Reconnaissance or Survey|Method= ology, Theory, or Synthesis|Collections Research|Consultation|Ethnographic= Research|Research Design or Data Recovery Plan|Architectural Survey|Ethno= historic Research|Ground Disturbance Monitoring|Geophysical Survey|Archaeo= logical Overview|Bioarchaeological Research|Architectural Documentation|Re= mote Sensing}%? =2D------- org-capture -------- If one has available the up and down arrows for traversing through the com= pletion list, it is counter-productive to show the full completion list for Investigation. The situation becomes= even more relevant when the completion list is a long one. ("a" "Via Appia and Catacombs" entry (file "~/archaeol.org") "Site: %^{Site|...| Domestic Structure or Architectural Complex| Resource Extraction or Production| Transportation Structure or Features| Funerary and Burial Structures or Features| Non-Domestic Structures| Archaeological Feature| Rock Art| Water-Related}\n Investigation: %^{Investigation|...| Historic Background Research Site Evaluation or Testing| Systematic Survey Data Recovery or Excavation|" Records Search or Inventory Checking|" Site Stewardship Monitoring| Site Stabilization| Heritage Management| Environment Research| Reconnaissance or Survey| Methodology, Theory, or Synthesis| Collections Research| Consultation| Ethnographic Research| Research Design or Data Recovery Plan| Architectural Survey| Ethnohistoric Research| Ground Disturbance Monitoring| Geophysical Survey| Archaeological Overview| Bioarchaeological Research| Architectural Documentation| Remote Sensing}%?\n" 3 Default Completion Prompt =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D When the default consists of a long completion string, the long default is= printed together with default itself. It could be useful to identify the default, however it sh= ould not be permanently printed next to the prompt "Investigation [Historic Background Research Si= te Evaluation or Testing]:" =2D------ org-capture ------- Investigation [Historic Background Research Site Evaluation or Testing]: H= istoric Background Research Site Evaluation or Testing [No Matches] =2D------ org-capture ------- This is the capture template ("a" "Via Appia and Catacombs" entry (file "~/02histr/gadmin/archaeol/archaeol.rcl.org") "Investigation: %^{Investigation|Historic Background Research Site Evalu= ation or Testing| Systematic Survey Data Recovery or Excavation|Systematic Survey Data Rec= overy or Excavation| Records Search or Inventory Checking|Site Stewardship Monitoring|Site St= abilization| Heritage Management|Environment Research|Reconnaissance or Survey|Method= ology, Theory, or Synthesis| Collections Research|Consultation|Ethnographic Research|Research Design = or Data Recovery Plan| Architectural Survey|Ethnohistoric Research|Ground Disturbance Monitorin= g|Geophysical Survey| Archaeological Overview|Bioarchaeological Research|Architectural Documen= tation|Remote Sensing}%?\n") ) > Sent: Monday, December 14, 2020 at 1:41 PM > From: "Marco Wahl" > To: pietru@caramail.com > Cc: "Org-Mode mailing list" > Subject: Re: Org Capture Menu cannot be fully viewed > > Hi Pietru and all, > > > When making a relatively long Org Capture Menu for Archaeological Fiel= d Management, > > the relevant capture window cannot be scrolled down. This becomes par= ticularly > > problematic with small field laptops. > > Thanks for reporting. > > I just committed a fix along the lines of the similar exporter-UI and > the agenda chooser-UI. Now there is at least C-n, C-p, C-v when the > window is too small for all the items. > > Unfortunately these similar UIs are not unified when looking at the code > base. E.g. I could not find a simple way to add key M-v to scroll one > page up for the capture menu. > > Possibly these UIs could be unified or Org could even switch to > something different. I think you already discussed some ideas. Sorry if > I did not read the whole thread. That was too much information for me. > > Would be great if you could check out the fix. > > > Thanks and HTH, > -- > Marco >