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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Jarmo Hurri , "Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide" , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1620993489; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=qfC1S4GvJuqAp/QvompJHnEGjSqgIdbEO1nLTABl5LM=; b=gQdHx1kc2J+fQItYxXx0dalpTPX7rSg4BnYjx/0cJDlihRSP54YpEJ5B34fWJvPoqykUzz lT3zgjKrntstQ/oy9LSc8Vgk8k2I/23wxVyuFWakdyOa4AXhH7mQ0Um9KbgEuxuVZRx8Ba L1CsOcmY2G01OrDAGWQ/PfBQK/nQQRnhqiFlEdULsOSILcjZcPcYqpByIT5RpSri63QxgY Is6ZnldBoIAOJCQg8wsWiuRuQCtWwdMoZKLicDkvfLee6UJYi/C+QhMQMVhWrlj5JYB7Cq dCIuQjB58tedz56bTRfLb5eWEXGuftCjIUd7v0NAtQivw1PveWO9qO3vfXZYTw== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1620993489; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=ecHodxwN6HsYs5qxpvHOMfiG0TEEkewc1Tei0OyoAONMb5ez1yNWiFLt0Poh5hFp7T3lOD w6RIFZQW1PleGbR1zMJAt8bCjFukBvOLnC5fwXUNt6RqBbnAOeDZGzH3jnbVIglNuLo1sw QwtPDUaIQZcSaFA523+Kas4zToGmvq2ibCyXcYQlRCm9Zl+V867EweHPV0bb1rxl5oFrdO i8I+/q+nGI9OC6henOTdoJ1rYkCTt10B5DqB9NUgTat2WrMN2YD2U8+kcXd2oMzbQGB6vL JB4T2ZTbfkq8awtzcQZIUsJFlY/YfnS58aRG7MCy9JYAvlT9jbdjGvHHCMqSPg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=gmx.net header.s=badeba3b8450 header.b=XSVLVlxa; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=gmx.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: 0.64 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=gmx.net header.s=badeba3b8450 header.b=XSVLVlxa; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=gmx.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 7A1911F1B4 X-Spam-Score: 0.64 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: LlyBdv/jPRC/ > Sent: Friday, May 14, 2021 at 11:23 PM > From: "Arthur Miller" > To: "Christopher Dimech" > Cc: "Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide" , "Jarmo Hurri" , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > Subject: Re: The fate of ditaa.jar (9.4.5.) > > Christopher Dimech writes: > > >> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2021 at 5:30 PM > >> From: "Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide" > >> To: "Arthur Miller" > >> Cc: "Jarmo Hurri" , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > >> Subject: Re: The fate of ditaa.jar (9.4.5.) > >> > >> > >> Arthur Miller writes: > >> > >> > Exactly, so it is enough to just download a single file and point y= our > >> > org to it with one `setq' in your init file. So it does not need a > >> > pacakge managmenet on os level. > >> > >> Package management is how users should install software. Otherwise yo= u > >> quickly reach the point where they blindly curl and run untrusted > >> shell-scripts from shady websites. > > > > I agree with the assessment regarding shady websites. > > > >> > However, Org could also simply say: use another distro that has dit= aa in > >> > it's repository, such as Arch Linuz (in AUR). > >> > >> That would be openly hostile. > > No is not. There are so many distributions that are half-done, > unmaintained, etc. By the way, if your distro does not have a package > for ditaa, then you might maybe consider doing a community service and > provide a package script for your distro? I guess your distro have some > way for users to contribute a package? > > > If there exists the serious problem of not finding ditaa, then ditaa s= hould be provided. > > For the rest there exist no problem and users can easily install from = their Package Manager. > > > > You can't brush off a boyfriend and expect him to do you a favor using= Free Software > > by telling him to use another distro. ;) > > > > :-) It is just the usual one: "you deserve a better one ...." That would be true if you got a crappy one. :)