From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "Frank Mueller" Subject: Org-Mode Reference Card "bug" Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 11:37:31 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:36107) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UAeOH-0003i9-0H for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 05:37:39 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UAeOE-0001Mi-8f for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 05:37:36 -0500 Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.17.12]:59299) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UAeOD-0001MB-WC for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 05:37:34 -0500 Received: from 3capp-webde-bs45.server.lan ([172.19.170.45]) by mriweb.server.lan (mriweb001) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 0LnWyG-1UlONx3ak2-00hY5I for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 11:37:31 +0100 List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org

Just a remark to the Org-Mode Reference Card (http://orgmode.org/orgcard.pdf).

There is a little bug in the spreadsheet description.

wrong:
sum from 2nd to 3rd hline |:=vsum(@II..@III)|

correct:
sum from 2nd to 3rd hline |:=vsum(@II..III)|

The second at symbol must be deleted for correct working.

Regards,
-frank

From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Nick Dokos Subject: Re: Org-Mode Reference Card "bug" Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 14:18:05 -0500 Message-ID: <4205.1361992685@alphaville> References: Reply-To: nicholas.dokos@hp.com Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:57748) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UAmXs-0005mV-Sh for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 14:20:20 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UAmXg-0007G3-Na for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 14:19:59 -0500 Received: from g4t0016.houston.hp.com ([15.201.24.19]:11352) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UAmXg-00079u-Jk for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 14:19:52 -0500 In-Reply-To: Message from "Frank Mueller" of "Wed, 27 Feb 2013 11:37:31 +0100." List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Frank Mueller Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Frank Mueller wrote: > Just a remark to the Org-Mode Reference Card (http://orgmode.org/orgcard.pdf). > > There is a little bug in the spreadsheet description. > > wrong: > sum from 2nd to 3rd hline |:=vsum(@II..@III)| > > correct: > sum from 2nd to 3rd hline |:=vsum(@II..III)| > > The second at symbol must be deleted for correct working. > Why do you think so? Nick From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "Sebastien Vauban" Subject: Re: Org-Mode Reference Card "bug" Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 09:48:10 +0100 Message-ID: <86k3ps9645.fsf@somewhere.org> References: <4205.1361992685@alphaville> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org To: emacs-orgmode-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Hello Frank and Nick, Nick Dokos wrote: > Frank Mueller wrote: > >> Just a remark to the Org-Mode Reference Card >> (http://orgmode.org/orgcard.pdf). >> >> There is a little bug in the spreadsheet description. >> >> wrong: >> sum from 2nd to 3rd hline |:=vsum(@II..@III)| >> >> correct: >> sum from 2nd to 3rd hline |:=vsum(@II..III)| >> >> The second at symbol must be deleted for correct working. > > Why do you think so? I second Nick: your proposition is wrong; it can't work like that. Now, maybe you're hit by a feature here: when setting `org-hide-emphasis-markers' to t, some `@' disappear from the formula (as you see them, while they're there: enable visible-mode and check it!). Is this what happens to you? That's a feature... Best regards, Seb -- Sebastien Vauban From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Bastien Subject: Re: Org-Mode Reference Card "bug" Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 09:53:18 +0100 Message-ID: <87k3psg6pt.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> References: <4205.1361992685@alphaville> <86k3ps9645.fsf@somewhere.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:37338) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UAzEv-0008B4-Bi for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 03:53:22 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UAzEu-0001jT-Ao for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 03:53:21 -0500 Received: from mail-wi0-f181.google.com ([209.85.212.181]:52392) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UAzEu-0001j9-5r for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 03:53:20 -0500 Received: by mail-wi0-f181.google.com with SMTP id hm6so1779983wib.8 for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 00:53:19 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <86k3ps9645.fsf@somewhere.org> (Sebastien Vauban's message of "Thu, 28 Feb 2013 09:48:10 +0100") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Sebastien Vauban Cc: OrgMode ML Hi Sébastien, "Sebastien Vauban" writes: > Now, maybe you're hit by a feature here: when setting > `org-hide-emphasis-markers' to t, some `@' disappear from the formula (as you > see them, while they're there: enable visible-mode and check it!). Why would @ disappear with `org-hide-emphasis-markers' set to t? -- Bastien From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "Sebastien Vauban" Subject: Re: Org-Mode Reference Card "bug" Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 10:28:02 +0100 Message-ID: <86bob4949p.fsf@somewhere.org> References: <4205.1361992685@alphaville> <86k3ps9645.fsf@somewhere.org> <87k3psg6pt.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org To: emacs-orgmode-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Bastien, Bastien wrote: > "Sebastien Vauban" writes: > >> Now, maybe you're hit by a feature here: when setting >> `org-hide-emphasis-markers' to t, some `@' disappear from the formula (as >> you see them, while they're there: enable visible-mode and check it!). > > Why would @ disappear with `org-hide-emphasis-markers' set to t? They should not visually disappear, but they do. Consider the following formula line: |---+---| | | | |---+---| #+TBLFM: @1$1=vsum(@-I..@-II) It becomes this: #+TBLFM: 1$1=vsum(-I..@-II) ^ ^ when `org-hide-emphasis-markers' is turned on. Best regards, Seb -- Sebastien Vauban From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Bastien Subject: Re: Org-Mode Reference Card "bug" Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 10:31:35 +0100 Message-ID: <87y5e8eqdk.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> References: <4205.1361992685@alphaville> <86k3ps9645.fsf@somewhere.org> <87k3psg6pt.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <86bob4949p.fsf@somewhere.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:45889) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UAzqG-0005oq-4Q for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 04:31:58 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UAzqE-0004Gk-TX for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 04:31:56 -0500 Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:59197) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UAzqE-0004Gf-NG for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 04:31:54 -0500 Received: from public by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UAzqV-0001K9-2i for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 10:32:11 +0100 In-Reply-To: <86bob4949p.fsf@somewhere.org> (Sebastien Vauban's message of "Thu, 28 Feb 2013 10:28:02 +0100") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Sebastien Vauban Cc: public-emacs-orgmode-mXXj517/zsQ@plane.gmane.org "Sebastien Vauban" writes: > They should not visually disappear, but they do. No... chances are that it comes from your configuration. Please always assume it does first, then provide a recipe if it's with emacs -Q. Thanks! -- Bastien From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Nick Dokos Subject: Re: Org-Mode Reference Card "bug" Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 09:41:02 -0500 Message-ID: <23169.1362062462@alphaville> References: <4205.1361992685@alphaville> <86k3ps9645.fsf@somewhere.org> Reply-To: nicholas.dokos@hp.com Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:57026) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UB4fV-0004sh-GX for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 09:41:11 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UB4fT-0002Cx-1h for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 09:41:09 -0500 Received: from g1t0027.austin.hp.com ([15.216.28.34]:30384) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UB4fS-0002CY-SZ for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 09:41:06 -0500 In-Reply-To: Message from "Sebastien Vauban" of "Thu, 28 Feb 2013 09:48:10 +0100." <86k3ps9645.fsf@somewhere.org> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Sebastien Vauban Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Sebastien Vauban wrote: > Hello Frank and Nick, > > Nick Dokos wrote: > > Frank Mueller wrote: > > > >> Just a remark to the Org-Mode Reference Card > >> (http://orgmode.org/orgcard.pdf). > >> > >> There is a little bug in the spreadsheet description. > >> > >> wrong: > >> sum from 2nd to 3rd hline |:=vsum(@II..@III)| > >> > >> correct: > >> sum from 2nd to 3rd hline |:=vsum(@II..III)| > >> > >> The second at symbol must be deleted for correct working. > > > > Why do you think so? > > I second Nick: your proposition is wrong; it can't work like that. > I heard from Frank privately: there was another error in the formula and he thought he had to get rid of the second @ to make it work. That's not correct: the @III form works fine However, the formula without the @ in front of III *also* works in this case. I don't know whether that's an accident or intended behavior. Nick > Now, maybe you're hit by a feature here: when setting > `org-hide-emphasis-markers' to t, some `@' disappear from the formula (as you > see them, while they're there: enable visible-mode and check it!). > > Is this what happens to you? > > That's a feature... > > Best regards, > Seb > > -- > Sebastien Vauban > > From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "Sebastien Vauban" Subject: Re: Org-Mode Reference Card "bug" Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 15:46:54 +0100 Message-ID: <86lia88pi9.fsf@somewhere.org> References: <4205.1361992685@alphaville> <86k3ps9645.fsf@somewhere.org> <87k3psg6pt.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <86bob4949p.fsf@somewhere.org> <87y5e8eqdk.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org To: emacs-orgmode-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Bastien, Bastien wrote: > "Sebastien Vauban" writes: >> They should not visually disappear, but they do. > > No... chances are that it comes from your configuration. Please always > assume it does first, then provide a recipe if it's with emacs -Q. Thanks! Yes, it does. I still had the following code, from when `@' was unofficially supported in Beamer to render alert calls: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- (defface my/org-alert-face '((t (:weight bold :foreground "black" :foreground "#FF0000"))) "Face used to display alert'ed items.") (add-to-list 'org-emphasis-alist '("@" my/org-alert-face "" "")) (add-to-list 'org-export-latex-emphasis-alist '("@" "\\alert{%s}" nil)) --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- Without that, the problem disappears. Sorry for the noise. Best regards, Seb -- Sebastien Vauban From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Bastien Subject: Re: Org-Mode Reference Card "bug" Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2013 11:27:36 +0100 Message-ID: <87wqtqnjj2.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> References: <4205.1361992685@alphaville> <86k3ps9645.fsf@somewhere.org> <23169.1362062462@alphaville> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:48815) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UBkLn-0002H6-0z for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Mar 2013 06:11:35 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UBkLj-0006mm-Qz for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Mar 2013 06:11:34 -0500 Received: from mail-wi0-f180.google.com ([209.85.212.180]:64342) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UBkLj-0006mc-Kc for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Mar 2013 06:11:31 -0500 Received: by mail-wi0-f180.google.com with SMTP id hi8so375808wib.7 for ; Sat, 02 Mar 2013 03:11:31 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <23169.1362062462@alphaville> (Nick Dokos's message of "Thu, 28 Feb 2013 09:41:02 -0500") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: nicholas.dokos@hp.com Cc: Sebastien Vauban , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Hi Nick, Nick Dokos writes: > However, the formula without the @ in front of III *also* works in this > case. I don't know whether that's an accident or intended behavior. FWIW, I don't know neither... maybe Carsten can tell. -- Bastien