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[was Re: Is function 'org-insert-property-drawer' usable?] Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2023 11:45:21 +0700 Message-ID: References: <25520.25134.831330.318368@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <87v8lq75id.fsf@localhost> <25527.22953.318527.300303@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.4.2 Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <25527.22953.318527.300303@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geo-emacs-orgmode@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (-0.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD=1, FORGED_MUA_MOZILLA=2.309, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.249, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, NICE_REPLY_A=-2.939, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1672980387; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=dnGNyglz8y5hzwu5W3xa9cHYCx1GHzeXVkt3Z/mFjaJs1ZFq1eBIeryKLA37PALMvnxzYZ SDNJybrSSvhyRmaIz7yCltjFR1WGOnpFa8Jmn3Zk0WxcNVFfsgoY5qEieuxWB71BRBfyLt m129WglsjWSUUV+fmjc3MCeWBMNn7wUfej3PgEnj/KsjLXEckK4YozuavFvu42rWYWeNZv 5fHl0WsQlGSf+CChTasM03i7OhDgGk8rluwVYuLZI+UmocZC2IKgC41QI81etsrVr44NFe LrCqjFYEAkyCtSS+vL+D3IzdtuA5YZzoHHbVGvvcppY6tjWETm/hm8ZtO/AmwA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org"; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none) ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1672980387; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=fBT1Yh2WGHIQLaNF51z7w2VMe8hgdKw5OByzilA9AWI=; b=NRw0VEIrZB6mPNkuVCecOyuce+8yBzOUXvNNf5lhWkUEn93MZeiQxEhtqjYKeK467d0NtK zkdkBmcUflsRxfMEebS7Hjmnl+RQq/3ey/QIdth6TjnKPms1Dd1fcj81WRH/KJhfgxtqeu eK0gQ50cUJjKjp904+c1AGQAYZIYcNvkPRq8JvLMlGdpeq4W7G8NECzAI8Tw3CsXqyaVTW YPHH7+gH6Ch/s6/uCwHAzlZ5Bts8iV9O+KOYuYeWKPqojl/a/7wXZW3jeG49afmCTLxCHE ilCLRMRRijZt0cKO3FyVZsX9ccJvYd7z8hybUw1Pbt2TTRv18/aePyJJ2FnSEw== X-Spam-Score: -1.56 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 2747E23A1D Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org"; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none) X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.56 X-TUID: eu1BnPHeMnvA On 06/01/2023 06:13, Alain.Cochard wrote: > For example, with the cursor on 'org-capture-finalize' in the manual, > 'C-h f ' gives nothing right away; 'C-h f org-capture' does > not offer 'org-capture-finalize' as a completion; 'C-h f > org-capture-fin' does complete and says that > 'org-capture-finalize' is interactive; and then it becomes possible to > use it with 'M-x'. To improve loading speed, Org starts with minimal set of packages, other should be loaded on demand. See `org-modules'. For C-h f (`describe-function') behavior see https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=60085 "`help-enable-autoload' is not fully obeyed" As to `org-capture-finalize', while being interactive, it is of little use before capture is started and so org-capture is loaded. That is why it is not marked for autoload and unavailable for M-x. In future it might be restricted to a specific "capture" mode. Perhaps there is a way to generate TAGS file for Org files an to instruct Emacs to lookup collected symbols there.