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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1664431750; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=BPzwsggdMkokIobZp+xJrZPyFgymyngAGVjEMU4ccWc=; b=iHU5/s/fXyID47cCGOGHjx62ruj9cMxl0RX68saCyBGjLy+spI9pQSj/YjGFXHGFsV9fdc iJzTTPYM9+J9UJaVZE1fDliKAqFjwaxysLaCSFAwAZaCpasBHsB0yUPVtWwa7Zg3QwBMHE ZajeVIdk6MGO+GBab5N0h+3q83FVkujLYRxt7TUuZaGZGXHnxWzmzyNCafoD5VukEPe6St DHhjhsYf04Xg9Pb1WEaJp1MBKAsL+YCPPK0p98KtTkO+H5JX13FFNMx7/fVpOUrHEUDUgT 7zsdWlevoSQkcuf7IXU2X7kE1xX2p4mG2Ax2/Jys8eeKUoS5a0dRW6GpvbIQ5Q== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1664431750; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=JDCf7v2W53WRjABD9yNwbDS9w5Lu7mjdYRE34oPD17QSbgdl/oPnpFiLzfNL3RykhOtkDy KUqyRUd9PI8APJk29TCt4RUL5gGcSK//7C+JZPHsPoCQpP9gl3LhlWWEw5EenhT75ONRuh 6rWUHuiDAqVXON9vEyxVeSuSOYv4DsrQsQ01KN1KsqmePDIQDDgk6b7398Zenao/f4JyFH LUs3QfWF+/raP/PhvhL4ChJ1x7AJ2mT1VjYdDRrsyhAP8R+PpZXcnUrs3/WfXAaqpFyTrP Cphi0V2PEvEv21tRhi3MPJcDc2oLugCw4iXdK1OitB3wqiy8zYapk8gBHqzzfw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: 3.86 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 7EEE629B1 X-Spam-Score: 3.86 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: Muf/yahB4Y74 Let me remind that the discussion originates from a complain that filling paragraph does not respect ^L character in the .org file. The topic starter have not provided more details concerning their use case, maybe it is irrelevant to export. During export (LaTeX is not the only case, even HTML may be printed or saved as PDF and has some CSS attributes) \clearpage (or its equivalent) may be attributed to the end of a block level element or a beginning of it. In the latter case it should be preserved even if the previous heading is commented out. It resembles to a recent topic discussing wrapping exported heading or other elements into some template. I agree that page breaking inside paragraph (at particular point or when current line is filled) is a different case. Degree of support may vary across export backends.