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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-To: larch@yhetil.org X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1663864896; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=US1B87mTmgfhHVOgGHCpQLUYh74oOE84WAgzlcPAhRs=; b=r6LzHMGamfkFjWDossuAKV1KgZDAfdygo8S6m6ZCgt2zwgDb21EtDsAkeMHndqgWSzHGL2 JUgJJ03Ss6famdJBK6+p0g8dd2RPxsr4X+wVMuplKKC/v+h/h75FflLoEwK4GN/3hm1rJ3 Gh/mjDkqmwMS3QshhcMnXHbWBVShsTcDu2b8uqOO6xp7CYDcgvT+7xAcPLDGT6RB7s5/Lx BrqLv97mK4ejt8j0xjILShbxdGy/bzgsVmKnaOt6ZJAcp/+X359dAsQhqe5DoH4sPCHZRP e3Q4JqMhqnh2k+80jDnnVsqMr2LF3vyljuV67GY0ATe1do3DRm9sgRqeELSIGw== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1663864896; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=GAKDe8KTKHXhClgTGEorMdE6c1dFQcQznxsWhowV/qzZrOYceY1xPUFtQpUniKLxX7B1c3 OeBw2K8lHBW964gk3onFyquTXnlHv8jhMs1siRBgW+otlkPD651wwG+/9n6AB1ahj4kPWS ipEj0my8m7ayHHxOodlkSvh+DinZQSiPh9vX6wl4uZVVNNEkxjdcXE+2MaZVWI2tyLiRH+ gMbjH1Io69rJ6nW7yTTRYCosVbv/JBdeIpnpxJJzN0QycgzK1Wya4i1AT5s3yx9v84PtxE AGkxqd2Ctt+ijIQPR4zuTkEYE9DzTYZo8zWPTvtnZb3UuzE+dUxBCYw3Ibxh2Q== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: 2.85 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 24AFFF86D X-Spam-Score: 2.85 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: ancesWtA5HO0 On 20/09/2022 12:41, Timothy wrote: > Hi Bastien, > > The whole top banner has become a bit messy, IMO. I’ll have a go at cleaning it > up later today. See Matrix for a preview I put together by just editing the > in-browser HTML. Also let me know if you don’t use Matrix at all, I just thought > I’d send you a message since you’re on there 🙂. Timothy, thank you for improvements. Earlier edits in response to various requests resulted in some inconsistencies. The updated page has alt="Install from ELPA" that likely should be "Install from GNU ELPA". I like that new link leads directly to the Org package at GNU ELPA, earlier version had a link to the site top page. However Firefox does not show tooltips (unlike for the Librepay link) when mouse cursor is over new SVG images. I have no idea if screenreaders will use value of the alt attributes. I expect that some fraction of messages at this list will have "[BUG] " subject literally. Perhaps "&body=..." may be added with a template like "Org version: ___, Emacs version: ___" with a note requesting subject more specific to the particular problem. Some people still will not read it. An unrelated to the latest changes question. What is the supposed way to reach https://orgmode.org/manual/Feedback.html from site main page (to become aware of M-x `org-submit-bug-report'?