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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-To: larch@yhetil.org X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1655037483; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=daJLF0CUr+beaOnujKnmTUnO0yACC6BO59+TRelQB/Y=; b=Cqc5wiFFDdlkF9on6GzqFqHFXs0uuGJAyiVQ9uKJYFefBePumBZYnLDx9NukDT0/1ANvaA 409NCn3Vd/ChbjmPfXm3Vo8DvfscLQQ0hNYwPajqs655UqfYi3mz1D3F0bof8xKetb6YD2 95gMa+NhJN5FKxvMyljXxQhDLlAA1Laafr9vHoPV7gSwLyTzrTAg2kmRePolKQC3stzw+P pYW+F36c4NEEhwoZeZudbFrcuAf412p6rpAxybjMZGQTxQfeLZA4STBr0b4mPwl2MBKjuk qsvKVlsUJAimwJPA1wkZKw3N+7+L6LOpzlweg1QdbtF4DPt4mw8pkQBrIBTAOw== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1655037483; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=AOk20hc6KTE10ztmMfyYUBvlgRaeoYy93YmKPok6sbYPK5tOk1ZSgWoHA36ewtGyuTbPq5 3sBG+YK3gqvVIFyx+ViTuRoWrLL828HCddB+z3DOBwzKpO0jzAuuZAfGN2bFBae2BpZnGb qXaLVmKOjkU3P+GF2lnJvO/Fb0VWdzrizfVXCPoqFtdnjT7jYPrLdhFzxTLtpajPZkxIfT R71Zv7waX2sZE2n+36BnyStPEJfkIjd4mOUWXRe240rz8Ms8sD/4OMeuA/aSLfaMHCbWRd CjN6vn+2QRzT6V6g7GVl8uvQj7vDM/AVswfkKSx+IvKZHoeEPBx6xTwBzq3qkQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: 2.21 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: B7C6A20168 X-Spam-Score: 2.21 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: syGlux31gxRZ On 11/06/2022 20:32, Ihor Radchenko wrote: > Ignacio Casso writes: > >> Then we should decide if we want to use autoload cookies for custom >> variables to make this work also with lexical binding. Otherwise, code >> like the snippet above would produce an error in Emacs 29, and in Emacs >> 27 the let binding would be ignored (although at least the custom setter >> would work). I have no opinion regarding this last point since I don't >> remember what were the disadvantages of using autoload cookies for >> custom variables. > > AFAIK, autoloading defcustoms is not discussed in the manual. I have no > idea about possible pitfalls as well. I have impression that it is not encouraged, but Emacs sources have enough examples of such autoloading. I posted some links earlier in the discussion of this issue, see Max Nikulin, Fri, 11 Mar 2022 17:07:03 +0700. https://list.orgmode.org/c58ae4d5-dd66-0d06-a332-cfdf23e1889e@gmail.com > LGTM! Unless others have objections, I am inclined to merge the patch > fully. I see clear intention of improvement, but I have no particular opinion if the patch is risky. I worry a bit that some code related to this issue has changed in the development branch of Emacs, so I am unsure concerning behavior in earlier versions. I do not object committing the patch since it can be reverted later if some problem would arise.