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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-To: larch@yhetil.org X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1653497267; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=j93J+RON2XpxRVdHk+1b9g0JvDZ+tg9wBsyUiOI2JO0=; b=KJMVnza3gZkWaeoBhh6aREhAUeDWt/Bb1U/sXgvg/AoX/+1mgGuCrXXXwS67eY60d3Zc7N ERhMMnErVwH47jtMDsHI7CH4/OwlTl2A8Rx6f8Nv7kwdaVJ19nVEPGn1n+XlvzDfe1dVIW hAAnhmZyElaG1iAK8oYOADtvxaDhbAURjAZHdpCFloKZ6jSro/Owy9ik/AvxifeHqg5fk2 XNd6uzsB0ZFzWOb78P/1V4AsXOV8/FgCPxskA3+v2vLD8ulR7v3NGj124M1G8qdDc4yKw5 iEGD+zB5+1X47Zt7Yi6DOYrSloTHeMc3kOUvK2bT9/0EPSdUCf4SwU6RwoG5gQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1653497267; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=jvJP3qqyE5DhuAobtdgn8xWM0vWx5witLIddv2cWXV+FOC2sJW7Uk75ho3zzYHed5BPFlZ Fcja/TlMAZ08Faw783i91xkIjHkoG5F7yl73q47aTQsuwQWPxemWeNEv/dQ4sHCjpd5Qi+ McxfOBBch1zGJSPpfvtuEOb/iIsMRbUmPztcmYk3kGcZnZOQz8gE6G/+WOBbT1qVJNvcSu 4HGCYpMmklRim2P7nl1ZLFuI0N0lhB+6q8yxK5wBwZ4ubWMN62bvfuog6OS1vsy+oXP7Eh nDYO85709+s3C4ZbR3eMRxpQnTXR5QpKBSWggNyalA56W6x+ur7bNHlwf4ynWA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: 2.16 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 057B82AEB0 X-Spam-Score: 2.16 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: uJfqtBwTZqK3 On 25/05/2022 23:00, Bruce D'Arcus wrote: > On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 11:26 AM Max Nikulin wrote: >> On 25/05/2022 18:00, Bruce D'Arcus wrote: >>> You just need to set `citar-file-open-function` to your preferred >>> function; say xdg-open. >> >> Is there a reason to avoid emacs global or even system global settings >> obtained through mailcap.el? While `mailcap-view-file' is quite new >> addition, the function was inspired by `org-open-file' and the latter >> queries mailcap settings. > > No reason, other than that nobody suggested it. > > It could be, however, that when using citar, some users may have more > specialized needs. For example, maybe Alessandro wants to use Sioyek > when reading PDFs of scholarly articles and such, but the standard > system PDF viewer otherwise. > > But I suppose these aren't mutually exclusive; citar could always, > notwithstanding the bug you note below, fallback to making use of > mailcap? Disclaimer: I am not a citar user, so be skeptic concerning my suggestions. I suppose `mailcap-view-file' (when available) and `org-open-file' are at least reasonable defaults when a user has expressed their wishes by configuring citar. It would be great to open the cited document at the particular page (e.g. from the locator), but there are a lot of complications on this way. The file may contain only a range of pages, every PDF viewer has its own way to specify a page or a string to search for. `org-file-apps' might be tuned for such purpose (modulo a bug in handling of additional arguments). I have had a quick glance into the code I have an additional question why `browse-url' is not used for `citar-file-open-external'. On 25/05/2022 23:24, Alessandro Bertulli wrote: > I can't use browse-url-xdg-open because the PDF viewer I want to use > it's not the system default one: when opening PDFs from Org-cite I > expect to open academic documents, so I use Sioyek for them. I mean (call-process "xdg-open" nil 0 nil url) with "sioyek" instead of "xdg-open" if you do not like to set the application as the default handler for PDF files. It will allow to avoid additional settings for shell buffers. Of course, you will loose ability to check command output for errors, it is shoot and forget method suitable for most of viewers however.