From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: David Frascone Subject: Re: Re: Linking Mail ? Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 08:42:34 -0600 Message-ID: References: <87wrvruyf0.fsf@fastmail.fm> <878w875fuw.wl%simon@cliffestones.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0338257400==" Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1O7Uwq-00030v-QD for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Apr 2010 10:42:40 -0400 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=42339 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1O7Uwo-00030E-LL for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Apr 2010 10:42:39 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O7Uwm-0003aw-Oh for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Apr 2010 10:42:38 -0400 Received: from mail-wy0-f169.google.com ([74.125.82.169]:60337) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O7Uwm-0003ao-F0 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Apr 2010 10:42:36 -0400 Received: by wyb34 with SMTP id 34so273513wyb.0 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2010 07:42:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <878w875fuw.wl%simon@cliffestones.demon.co.uk> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Simon Brown Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org --===============0338257400== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d7efca2b50e90485612375 --0016e6d7efca2b50e90485612375 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Simon Brown wrote: > At Wed, 28 Apr 2010 16:14:59 -0400, > Matt Lundin wrote: > > David Frascone writes: > > > 2) Which mail subsystem would be most compatible and easiest to use? > > > MH? Gnus? And, would it be worth the trouble setting up on a mac? > > > > You might want to check out this recent ML discussion: > > > > http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/23481/focus=23588 > I started that thread, the answer I suspect is simply no. Your options > are MH-E, Gnus, Wanderlust, VM and MEW. I tried Gnus, Wanderlust and > VM trying the hardest with Gnus and Wanderlust. > > Gnus has a lot going for it as it is included in emacs, very active > development and I had it reading my IMAP mail very quickly. It is > however a news reader and that didn't suit me at all. > > Installing Wanderlust I understand is tricky, you need to get it and > it's dependancies from the right branch from CVS as the last release > occured some time ago. I use the ubuntu wl-beta package so didn't have > to do this. > > Configuration is far from trvial, my config file has 300 lines. It > took me a week of tweaking to get to a state where I was happier than > I was with my previous mail client. There are still some rough edges. > > I do like and use the org integration, but have found the bigger > advantage is that I've now one less reason to leave emacs. How emacs > centric is your current computer use? > > Postbox http://forums.appleinsider.com/showthread.php?t=94402 looks > like a very capable application. By all means try all 5 out, I suspect > though that they're not the mail clients you're looking for. > I finally got gnus working with my gmail account. (I didn't want to try my work account first, because too many failed logins will lock it, and I have to call IT . . . Pain in the . . ) But, in a nutshell, it is simply WAY too slow. I don't mind a command line mail, though I prefer a gui with nice keyboard shutcuts. I used mutt for many, many years . . . . but, gnus is not mutt. I don't think an e-macs mail reader will really work for links, so, I'm going to be stuck with either Mail.app, which I'd rather not go back to, or trying to make an addon for Thunderbird / Postifx. . . sounds like it's addon time :) But, that's secondary to actually getting org-mode integrated into my daily life . . . . so, I'll shelve this issue for now. -Dave --0016e6d7efca2b50e90485612375 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Simon B= rown <simon@cliffestones.demon.co.uk> wrote:
At Wed, 28 Apr 2010 16:14:59 -0400,
Matt Lundin <mdl@imapmail.org> wrote:
> David Frascone <dave@frascone.= com> writes:
> > 2) Which mail subsystem would be most compatible and easiest to u= se?=A0
> > MH?=A0 Gnus?=A0 And, would it be worth the trouble setting up on = a mac?
>
> You might want to check out this recent ML discussion:
>
> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/23481/f= ocus=3D23588
I started that thread, the answer I suspect is simply no. Your = options
are MH-E, Gnus, Wanderlust, VM and MEW. I tried Gnus, Wanderlust and
VM trying the hardest with Gnus and Wanderlust.

Gnus has a lot going for it as it is included in emacs, very active
development and I had it reading my IMAP mail very quickly. It is
however a news reader and that didn't suit me at all.

Installing Wanderlust I understand is tricky, you need to get it and
it's dependancies from the right branch from CVS as the last release occured some time ago. I use the ubuntu wl-beta package so didn't have<= br> to do this.

Configuration is far from trvial, my config file has 300 lines. It
took me a week of tweaking to get to a state where I was happier than
I was with my previous mail client. There are still some rough edges.

I do like and use the org integration, but have found the bigger
advantage is that I've now one less reason to leave emacs. How emacs centric is your current computer use?

Postbox http://forums.appleinsider.com/showthread.php?t=3D94402<= /a> looks
like a very capable application. By all means try all 5 out, I suspect
though that they're not the mail clients you're looking for.

I finally got gnus working with my gmail account.=A0 (I = didn't want to try my work account first, because too many failed login= s will lock it, and I have to call IT . . . Pain in the . . )
But, in a nutshell, it is simply WAY too slow.=A0 I don't mind a comman= d line mail, though I prefer a gui with nice keyboard shutcuts.=A0 I used m= utt for many, many years . . . . but, gnus is not mutt.=A0 I don't thin= k an e-macs mail reader will really work for links, so, I'm going to be= stuck with either Mail.app, which I'd rather not go back to, or trying= to make an addon for Thunderbird / Postifx. . . sounds like it's addon= time :)

But, that's secondary to actually getting org-mode integrated into = my daily life . . . . so, I'll shelve this issue for now.

-Dave =
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