From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: John Hendy Subject: Re: Suggestions needed for handling "ideas" Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 15:38:23 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1183898418==" Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1O1QOq-0006qt-Or for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 16:38:28 -0400 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=34884 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1O1QOp-0006qR-1N for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 16:38:28 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O1QOm-0002Qd-MP for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 16:38:26 -0400 Received: from mail-yw0-f191.google.com ([209.85.211.191]:44975) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O1QOm-0002QU-H3 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 16:38:24 -0400 Received: by ywh29 with SMTP id 29so7998742ywh.14 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 13:38:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Ali Tofigh Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org --===============1183898418== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd6b2ca522b4a04841020de --000e0cd6b2ca522b4a04841020de Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Ali Tofigh wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I'm a new user of org-mode, and seeing the great potential, I am > trying to switch to org-mode for handling my day-to-day tasks. I'm > going to start off by using org-mode to handle my projects and I need > some advice. > > I'm new to this as well and started in a very similar way: - begin with just notes - ramp up to todo tracking - continue to ramp up to scheduling/full-fledged work data capture system > I like to keep my projects self-contained. Therefore I use one > org-file for each project. Each org-file contains two main headlines: > journal and tasks. Under journal I collect all kinds of information: > meeting notes, relevant stuff I've read, urls, etc. I also write down > what I have done every few days. The journal entries are sorted > chornologically. Under tasks I keep all todo items. > > I started with separate, then went to all-in-one file, and think I'm going back to one-per, mainly because of issues with being too deep in an outline already by having one file; in other words, I blow a headline with project name, then another with either 'journals' or 'todos', etc., and only then am I in day-to-day notes... Anyway, your setup sounds similar to what I'm leaning toward as well. > Frequently my notes on meetings contain ideas for stuff to try. Does > anyone have any advice on how to handle these? > > I'm very 'idea' centered as well. See some 'ideas' below :) > I don't want to keep them as todo items in the journal since I like to > keep changing the todos (e.g., dividing them into subtasks) and I > don't want those changes to appear in the journal. I agree with this -- my idea for a 'journal' is a record of my work, meeting notes, etc. Ideas are usually equivalent to 'off-topic concept to try later that came up in the context of this meeting but that will develop separately.' > My initial thought > was to create one headline for each idea and tag it with ":idea:". I > could then easily go through all ideas in a project and choose the > ones I want to work on by creating todo items. Those ideas would then > be further tagged with ":handled:" or something similar. This way I > could search for unhandled ideas in my projects. As an alternative I > could use separate todo keywords for todos and ideas. > What about: ### IDEA 1 ### --- file: project_name.org --- * Journals ** Title Notes about stuff * Ideas ** TODO idea 1 ** WORKING idea 2 ** DONE idea 3 Something like this? This could track ideas in each project and if you do use them as TODOs you can pull them up with agenda to check ideas across all projects. ### IDEA 2 ### - a remember template for ideas? - file keystrokes set to set the file to a particular project's file with a simple key entry? - or... one file called 'ideas.org' divided by projects (or just tag idea headlines with the project name) --- then use remember-mode to add ideas to that file when you're in meetings/taking notes in a different, dedicated project file? > Any specific advice or just general thoughts are most appreciated. > > I'm so new I can hardly believe I'm proposing these ideas as I don't even know that I know everything necessary to implement them! But... these are things i ponder so I thought I'd share... > Cheers, > /Ali > > John > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > --000e0cd6b2ca522b4a04841020de Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Ali Tofigh <alix.tofigh@gmai= l.com> wrote:
Hello everyone,

I'm a new user of org-mode, and seeing the great potential, I am
trying to switch to org-mode for handling my day-to-day tasks. I'm
going to start off by using org-mode to handle my projects and I need
some advice.


I'm new to this as well and started in a very= similar way:
- begin with just notes
- ramp up to todo tracking
-= continue to ramp up to scheduling/full-fledged work data capture system =A0
I like to keep my projects self-contained. Therefore I use one
org-file for each project. Each org-file contains two main headlines:
journal and tasks. Under journal I collect all kinds of information:
meeting notes, relevant stuff I've read, urls, etc. I also write down what I have done every few days. The journal entries are sorted
chornologically. Under tasks I keep all todo items.


I started with separate, then went to all-in-one = file, and think I'm going back to one-per, mainly because of issues wit= h being too deep in an outline already by having one file; in other words, = I blow a headline with project name, then another with either 'journals= ' or 'todos', etc., and only then am I in day-to-day notes...
Anyway, your setup sounds similar to what I'm leaning toward as wel= l.
=A0
Frequently my notes on meetings contain ideas for stuff to try. Does
anyone have any advice on how to handle these?


I'm very 'idea' centered as well. See= some 'ideas' below :)
=A0
I don't want to keep them as todo items in the journal since I like to<= br> keep changing the todos (e.g., dividing them into subtasks) and I
don't want those changes to appear in the journal.
I agree with this -- my idea for a 'journal' is a record of my wor= k, meeting notes, etc. Ideas are usually equivalent to 'off-topic conce= pt to try later that came up in the context of this meeting but that will d= evelop separately.'
=A0
My initi= al thought
was to create one headline for each idea and tag it with ":idea:"= . I
could then easily go through all ideas in a project and choose the
ones I want to work on by creating todo items. Those ideas would then
be further tagged with ":handled:" or something similar. This way= I
could search for unhandled ideas in my projects. As an alternative I
could use separate todo keywords for todos and ideas.
=
What about:

### IDEA 1 ###
--- file: project_name.org ---
* Journals
** Title <date>=
Notes about stuff

* Ideas
** TODO idea 1 <date>
** WORKI= NG idea 2
** DONE idea 3 <date>

Something like this? This c= ould track ideas in each project and if you do use them as TODOs you can pu= ll them up with agenda to check ideas across all projects.

### IDEA 2 ###
- a remember template for ideas?
- file keystrokes= set to set the file to a particular project's file with a simple key e= ntry?
- or... one file called 'ideas.or= g' divided by projects (or just tag idea headlines with the project= name)
--- then use remember-mode to add ideas to that file when you're in mee= tings/taking notes in a different, dedicated project file?


Any specific advice or just general thoughts are most appreciated.


I'm so new I can hardly believe I'm propo= sing these ideas as I don't=20 even know that I know everything necessary to implement them! But...=20 these are things i ponder so I thought I'd share...
=A0
Cheers,
/Ali


John
=A0

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