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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-To: larch@yhetil.org X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1648221771; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=kI6NSKNXev5qIU8x8/Zj7NDB7dPA/FwmdGu0GczqTnQ=; b=qo94UFDh0Tkb9EX9dILxpKGB7XHwSdrZVzS9T4JduCchpQhXu4SgLmuEVWWK/O1zAGk8ji RjgCN9uoNxcKqDP0U0xWLISYjLXDM4zTyBEqOZchrXg8rmLIB768TKJ6AfdCqTX7VA1xdV 5xVFTNEhNxxscmw+GFH/5yxV01ZRdWIrknBRGr8v2+yCjbu9s21qQZopMtUkWHfmEuZmer C3Ll+wKdOEF0Z+J8wBaR2qTEULtPagSuWqOlL7oCyMgOE3FLXAe59v/Wa9wU8gd5WSDxWM xlmg0slKIW99JoiCpoKQbjZSvdW7jlPQIEafSoZ8of8WGDDB2CXEmi7BsJMwZQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1648221771; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=I9MnJt3bBKuVKRYagrJ5J93WLu5zUmYgwFP8tVaHN8/hgF2OVvLyRXLb02UrIgkq/yzUFs Xz0xzacaaVdE4RxfJtI1OqEO8J8ysVGPQp/GTwLX3fa+w1WyC0AkETzBLACndMCcp5Ocua E5PK8wIvCC03jy+Dr8y2ZS1PCc4we257rn15PVW3avLZXUMq8tqmw4TCBzeC3xDTKcO2rN mLiTFDe2HjlLFSrRAxiJK6s6oT+yqwZ0oTI1CkiDb8BRRqKQWfF/6hXRxuKUu/h9gSbjqv kyyeCULo1x0AndN5OJvTpF+Wz4QyKkOYWX9wsWA261KyNPyQyXM0iKCxhH300g== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: 2.62 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: DA50E1DF55 X-Spam-Score: 2.62 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: Z/F52FRPaguD On 22/03/2022 00:00, John Kitchin wrote: > "Bruce D'Arcus" writes: > >> Indeed, the question of how to better support cross-references in org >> is an important one. >> >> I don't really use them much, and so am still unsure if this could be >> addressed with incremental improvements in existing org link support, >> or if it would require more significant enhancements. > > No incremental improvement is required IMO, regular links are > sufficient. org-ref has handled these with regular links from the > beginning. It even has an org-ref-refproc now for non-LaTeX exports that > has some support for things like sorting, grouping and cleveref. You can > find an example org file at > https://github.com/jkitchin/org-ref/blob/master/examples/refproc.org, Interesting package. At first I thought you use keywords around links as implicit markup, but later I realized that this file is example of export, not the original source file (with different link types). > and see it in action at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRR-5NSpKyE the > video has some rough spots, but you can get the idea. > > You can support all kinds of things in these links (for example, I now > support pre/post note text in the cite link paths), really anything you > want to parse out of the path.