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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1645961376; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=oJnHZ3aYhwoBrMWVm5nkvcLS3BjFLA9ObCQnHw6VjVs=; b=dEbFkrDXHG+GYfL0CSb6rFYS7+vzwzzaQlmKufvjaW85q+Q/braBoaGfaPVowU+S2ZisUG NZAooRQIQ74UyPIEX3hLsRbd8Q+rluXoIshm2+O/UR5eT6sqNU+Sbq/Olnf74A2rmiMyiF O8CBcTBP+OC43SeE5eGVTza+6dGX3PYF4sB8/HrEPl4VJksgUOV4u8SuzKOptjkc5jEbDx uzsjh5KPtQVtHUp60elxPnTbDvSxOPW61wW6af/udVzxibMTVqKKMKTyWqcI40KWmClTqO KqNzmP4f4NhfUNKKiebxFvVPlVzvyyt2DGBUGgEUjNiCBESk2vMPRAXpwHDgUA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1645961376; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=cvfsXLzDUDdWCO4RdD7It0EKVAcBSc1TZY7AEhHg5YP9JKL9Z9GFdIbk31/A9h2Kc9NtYz zQBohkZ4+sxw9b+/FeIOEixohfIF7Qb43itcHoxwNI6yNzSIbxFYoYjJiLjIH0ooHclZPW LBKerxJg47iyi+j4kZwOwosvUJzWz8DslTEu83EvvK741Cm3c8KHgDo8SGbS7jdyiGWku3 eqZG2sHw4F2IRQaTZL92gQS56pu/2DfPn/HBJNGd59lQNwRtmDJuTw1Sk0fkiRnaOR3QS9 dirP40N1hD5eejZjih2ajO1Vp3yM/V640ysKJSQemK8wj3On9vRhuBBe9tgbxw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: 1.89 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: B8C5429A82 X-Spam-Score: 1.89 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: uJ93KKv1byhN >>> I guess we shall remove references to non-free software (like the >>> Sublime Text editor - I will do this later on.) >> > Ihor Radchenko writes: >> Sounds reasonable. > On 26/02/2022 15:57, Bastien wrote: > Done. Frankly speaking, I never considered mention of sublime text in such context as endorsing it. Even though such linking might cause transition in both direction, I thought it was targeting mostly current sublime users. I believed that: - It makes first step toward using Org easier since such possibility becomes discoverable through search engines. - It reduces friction in heterogeneous teams when an Emacs user proposes to use Org markup. Later demonstrating features of real Org Mode may become a convincing argument to try GNU Emacs. As to search engines, some page on Worg may work almost as well. Visitors of the main page who came noticed a mention or a link has less chance to be hooked however. Actually I considered Atom and VS Code (that are still on the main page) quite similar. I admit that they are open source, but are available packages are really free? Maybe my opinion was just distorted by a mention of a project aiming to remove telemetry code from VS Code, however even that code is actually free, not to mention that privacy is completely distinct issue.