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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1637340419; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=qvSbeM9uR6Ye9qEDGzl6EKDd5RHsdCL7UW8vZ96OrM0=; b=FKHAY5yEkXYdt7avhVqwbea3BbjWFRbpG90SEcJUXV8m1AjPnqTE4hti1593FLs2jZisaO P0wulOAkH67QVdXq08h6+QyvuVFRy9JHJzznOUVHLPlU+jz6cN6XA3FCi04uqM497jGpXf J89tAgoTnf7kihLLcVAGfd0gx9tBsuJNZ/mqglhHhL51Qf1eZICNTSbl7mEY8DHmA5Oz9m uW7b3VjSAWoK4/cGjdzc0ZEiq1G3DChZCKeKMvJaCgkJhM+eoXSitchWQ/aKdQvgHvc4Vi rdFsZeBmB7OYUX9CqRXQf8jqqrUIMNk+OaF0lpjlCs9vnRc6OIxXLufLWPpc9A== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1637340419; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=ix4c93V4NwkqXnUC2RWuSPjI2VTqJgEOToVHitkJJbKFXFVxwmLBlnoEonEahSfpjPUO7z knFJSxykiqSc0DWt54gX4ngM55Y+vYfjT7cIedWtJBlo9kPMcpKfAT2h9Wn9YEWXLb7Vx+ CKFl3O+ppWG1LHjKVDJXst5RCnL0HqZBtB/AdC9NJoZBADs32dr8akSRqu0zPfbZlHQIXi IhT0skB79jzMfKT/o3uhsiTDdDj6oIwQd6jJVnTLhuSNQXuMYcIW+oxEei1RjwLsrlH64d bifsvWVSYPige45e5WiDq+m2WdmlAKCINIQEno2hIHfp+C4G8AwvlmZZb/ZYhg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.37 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 599697681 X-Spam-Score: -2.37 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: 8wX1YGLPVwVv On 18/11/2021 05:44, Samuel Wales wrote: > i think i found it useful, long ago, when it was ok/tolerated to > change the var, and probably still, to /"do this"/ and /this,/. D. Knuth in "The TeXbook" put punctuation outside of emphasized text, however he mentioned that accordingly to old manuals semicolon should be typed in the same font as previous word. On 18/11/2021 19:25, Ihor Radchenko wrote: > I updated the patch dropping your last suggested sentence in the > docstring. I find it not very helpful for the user. We should either say > nothing (as in the patch) or give a concrete reference how to "achieve > the desired effect". I just have never tried to add custom decorations, so it is difficult for me to express it by a concise phrase. I even do not know if the following recipe could be recommended https://emacs.stackexchange.com/questions/35626/how-to-make-my-own-org-mode-text-emphasis-work-again From other messages I had an impression that it is still possible to create custom markup with new marker but actually it was broken years ago: https://list.orgmode.org/orgmode/CAN9DXH2Xwf+9GGcPrpXFeTFUMeCrxUHtyjduDAYG0Z49FpaJ4g@mail.gmail.com/T/#u Bug: org-emphasis-alist not fully applied [9.1.1 (9.1.1-1-g80cbf9-elpa @ x:/folder/user/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20170918/)] 2017-09-19 4:16 It makes details of implementation less important. To my taste fixed order of markers (:type list) is too rigid. If a user reordered a couple of items then multi-value customization form becomes single multiline input area. :set function might sort items, but I do not like such solution. Since I have not found a way to improve customization interface with reasonable efforts, I believe that the patch is acceptable. It should be an improvement, but not an outstanding one.