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Gmane might block attachments in bug reports Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2021 00:00:12 +0700 Message-ID: References: <87tuh5nq0y.fsf@mat.ucm.es> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.13.0 In-Reply-To: <87tuh5nq0y.fsf@mat.ucm.es> Content-Language: en-US Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geo-emacs-orgmode@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_score: -0.0 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (-0.0 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD=1, FORGED_MUA_MOZILLA=2.309, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.249, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, NICE_REPLY_A=-2.846, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1635181286; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=yDAbi23AXoGyXio5dGAmxGSNAlSRJR/uDOezkhdu1X4=; b=n1Isjlj/0VmgIzXuim5I6H9cCCXhGQ1FBGm8FNPtwXtiwZUljTBE9RpJWLag6q65OE5XBc LZ9da0sx0U/KakBzuQ2a7pYu0IBswC8dgfWjn83GvzQkHlgdFqNRe6roWnaVYHnBgRrO2m hM+GmCbpiBXI+daRe77lYaaGRr59a4yUskja+vrg9VxFBGu5kLDQyic5utPtJFJoy938Vo A7LbExFUwTTgRVmzIwmhDzkQuaf+bIAhdAevWrObRgU2pK/iZ1FEMRUQwetQsQXjWkc0hs jKa4dzQo8wqKQvBvei/GIRngkYdIFChQfbKa+aDBypeZA4iF55hGYz5suwhcUg== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1635181286; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=TqvLsFFfL7rFZdy8TDcEs3IyYDcmEnYwQQyu5R5eammoR3IbgSPcxSl9GC6FU2whgsLTO0 bM+2Di/uV4SNQ4ex68LcY+YYyZMvThm+ze1o1AMDCmRjGgLtSZMv5KOgX1hvv3PY+6jUjH VaVw7fe8NXDrPez41EOGCSXhFCuzYUWyBnBmK4M5VktEWwIGOIqK1BCK3FK+BkM2ZOlMR6 1e20zNEK4uiPBMa0jvnc3yFtnu2k2ZRFYwy9xNlf1hiE5nXSYqlR4mwNiaynRmHeVM7KDu /4Q5brRg7dnCzeOJfNo2tf9Kk2sw2QN5ciVfnqp/dHwX2cdP1KAphaJcl6GbZg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.23 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: AA61914FBF X-Spam-Score: -2.23 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: ScVRTyPHztQC On 25/10/2021 21:21, Uwe Brauer wrote: > > org-submit-bug-report sends an email to the org-mode mailing list. It > turns out, that if you attach a file and later display that message on > gmane, as I do in order to keep my email traffic in moderate numbers, > then gmane might block that attachment. I do not see your attachment on news.gmane.io as well, but it is a rare problem. Mostly attachments are received correctly. Moreover, a part of your message is truncated. I am unsure whether there is some limit for message size or parser was confused by excessive white spaces (unsure whether the message was fully conformant). Anyway, size of "current state" part tells that it is unlikely *minimal* example that you tested with "emacs -Q". Even the part received by gmane has size of almost 300k. > Now GNU emacs has a bug tracker what can be accessed via debbugs-org and > there this problem does not appear. > > The org mailing list does have a similar bug tracker which is a bit of > problem with such a workflow. Attachment is available on https://list.orgmode.org/orgmode/87a6j02qf0.fsf@mat.ucm.es/ so I do not see any problem. Likely nobody explicitly confirmed your bug, so it did not appear on https://updates.orgmode.org/ On the other hand, a patch appeared quickly enough, so reasons to complain are unclear for me. > Of course an alternative would be to CC the bug report to the GNU emacs > list since org mode is also in the GNU emacs tree, but I am not sure > whether this is a good idea. I am unsure to which list you are going to send a copy. Emacs-orgmode is hosted on gnu.org just as other emacs lists. Besides lists.gnu.org it is archived on public inbox instances and these archives were able to parse your message. For issues filed through debbugs.gnu.org latency is often higher that for ones sent directly to this list. Are there evidences that it was not a rare case when an attachments from a messages generated by org-submit-bug-report was lost by gmane and change of workflow is really required?