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From: Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Don't fill displayed equations
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2021 21:21:06 +0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <sj9psl$17vu$1@ciao.gmane.io> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87y27b1xga.fsf@ucl.ac.uk>

On 02/10/2021 18:24, Eric S Fraga wrote:
> On Saturday,  2 Oct 2021 at 18:18, Timothy wrote:
>> I can’t help but think that this line of thinking is a bit of a trap, because
> 
> I think you're right.  Nicolas's view that we should not think of org as
> a front-end for LaTeX is probably more to the point.  As Stefan has
> noted, how LaTeX processes \[...\] in the context of paragraphs is much
> more complex (as it should be as typography is an incredibly difficult
> task to do well, and TeX/LaTeX generally does it very well).  Trying to
> have org mirror LaTeX in some way is doomed to fail.
> 
> I am happy with \[...\] being treated as an inline element.  That is
> more sympathetic to LaTeX than the opposite.

\begin{equation}
   1 != 2
\end{equation}

does not start new paragraph in LaTeX and formats expression as a 
separate block in display math mode similar to \[ \]. However in Org 
\begin{equation} starts block element, so terminates preceding 
paragraph. At the same time Org export backend is transparent enough, so 
Org paragraphs separated by equation blocks may become parts of single 
paragraphs in LaTeX.

So formatting paragraphs properly by LaTeX does not depend whether \[ \] 
is treated as inline object or as block-level element in Org. I really 
do not see a reason for idiosyncrasy that markup intended to add LaTeX 
snippet that looks like exactly as LaTeX commands for this purpose and 
even actually preserved during export to LaTeX should have different 
semantics for Org parser. It is rather a source of confusion and nothing 
more.



  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-02 14:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-30 17:20 [PATCH] Don't fill displayed equations Timothy
2021-09-30 17:44 ` Timothy
2021-09-30 18:51 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-09-30 18:54   ` Timothy
2021-09-30 19:02     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-09-30 19:17       ` Colin Baxter
2021-09-30 22:11         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-09-30 22:26           ` Tim Cross
2021-09-30 19:28       ` Timothy
2021-09-30 20:45       ` Timothy
2021-09-30 22:55         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-10-01  7:38           ` Stefan Nobis
2021-10-01 20:41             ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-10-02  8:17               ` Org syntax: \[ \] as block element instead of inline object Max Nikulin
2021-10-02 10:47                 ` Stefan Nobis
2021-10-02  9:57               ` [PATCH] Don't fill displayed equations Stefan Nobis
2021-10-02 10:04               ` Eric S Fraga
2021-10-02 10:18                 ` Timothy
2021-10-02 11:24                   ` Eric S Fraga
2021-10-02 14:21                     ` Max Nikulin [this message]
2021-10-02 17:51                       ` Tom Gillespie
2021-10-02 18:28                         ` Timothy
2021-10-02 18:57                           ` Tom Gillespie
2021-10-02 20:25                             ` org-latex-preview and latex export blocks Timothy
2021-10-03  8:50                         ` [PATCH] Don't fill displayed equations Max Nikulin
2021-10-03 10:56                           ` Stefan Nobis
2021-10-03 12:04                             ` Max Nikulin
2021-10-04  5:57                               ` Tom Gillespie
2021-10-04 17:11                                 ` Max Nikulin
2021-10-03 12:35                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-10-01  7:43           ` Timothy
2021-10-02 11:06             ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-10-02 11:24               ` Timothy
2021-10-03  8:49                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-10-03  8:50                   ` Timothy
2021-10-03  9:13                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-10-03  9:14                       ` Timothy
2021-10-03  9:41                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-10-03  9:42                           ` Timothy
2022-06-18  6:00                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-10-01 14:42         ` Greg Minshall
2021-10-04  6:05         ` Timothy
2021-10-04  7:11           ` Tom Gillespie
2021-10-04  7:15             ` Timothy
2021-10-04  8:11           ` Przemysław Pietrzak

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