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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1627833913; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=bWn/8dF8mEqIdhgRAtyelnX55n+dunuO9cxySnNHcQk=; b=R+N8ml6YAhhug863ww7R20C1UzF9LV878ufNp0SUiQiwD5a/+M2kKh++DvDRwB9rGECI1c EjbW0KcdDhM7IQaBaYcmK/lm+wnGLeULHJSj9NR0tIymFn8JQtqsKiZiwlyJJlpVb1z931 olFRN4IXh2C/yd+bVuIPN6FAh0fs1hryf0aROgpdzcr2a0BzktdZlaidMK61yUKkR+W6Mm MGv5oL3FR/9L3MI5JpBm0yg5aXGe5+85SeXErTi9ldFOFLDx6+mg8Y8LMelOh5OTRKIXnU nmI5DKQLytqGyiy6mW9hSb3/aI5b32iftCToJ54Kgd1ab6L1pJr5CLwRSDN7oQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1627833913; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=j+NWGqbw+RP3tLg3TU18ikPEahzoGQg+xFKb99Sy91TnvUtm5VxZF+L5hBrtFJWvEr47OQ xV2czZOsxhktiFbLg88lPtnZ4YRtr3TyE67VB55iBOGfCblp16AN4YGxB2tj6z3+34JWft dNmRBlsFHzjZD0qpmJNKTliG/IsYicWNBzhlA05s8SED0G8cch1gKtUgriCt9amSE1h1B5 45b52VanZyMcAszOClhxsDHwLBe2pp+mb3/27rfXnJy7uMBwoSvZ4IcSyz2mIRTH5qvlr3 7Kd+Ysda1L0iubClCR/TAzdtJH4XS6UNVk2gWVnLEwWE+S0B4z7aNMq7iJyfIQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.82 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: D416D1A95B X-Spam-Score: -1.82 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: xiq4/NVk/RVm On 28/07/2021 20:49, Juan Manuel Macías wrote: > Links (or macros) are a good user-level solution to solve certain > specific cases, IMHO. At a native level (in case Org someday implement > consistent and native multilingual support), I don't know what would be > the best solution for multilingual chunks of text inside paragraphs. > Maybe some kind of inline `quote' block? My personal impression is that lightweight Org markup is suitable for simple documents. Problems grow as a snowball as soon as a document becomes more complex. If syntax were extended too much, Org would loose its simplicity that is one of its advantage. Complex documents require more strict and flexible thus more verbose markup format. It seems, your have tried all possible variants for inline quotes https://orgmode.org/worg/dev/org-syntax.html#Objects macros, src_org{}, even links and nothing is perfect https://orgmode.org/list/875yzwce28.fsf@posteo.net Code for any approach may be polished to some extent, but some limitations will remain.