From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Matthew Jones Subject: Re: Mobile Org Sharing Questions Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 17:31:57 -0400 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0185032298==" Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1O5QUB-00085d-5c for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Apr 2010 17:32:31 -0400 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=59007 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1O5QU7-00083D-R2 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Apr 2010 17:32:29 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O5QTy-0007RN-EC for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Apr 2010 17:32:20 -0400 Received: from mail-vw0-f41.google.com ([209.85.212.41]:45759) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O5QTy-0007RJ-9O for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Apr 2010 17:32:18 -0400 Received: by vws4 with SMTP id 4so3118621vws.0 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 2010 14:32:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Marcelo de Moraes Serpa Cc: David Frascone , emacs-orgmode --===============0185032298== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364edbe0558fee0484ee297f --0016364edbe0558fee0484ee297f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 You could tie the push to the save hook fairly easily I would imagine. 73, Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB) http://matburt.net On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa < celoserpa@gmail.com> wrote: > Cool! > > Auto-sync on start would be simple enough to implement (I think) and would > help a lot, although I was thinking on a more deeply integration with the > underlying OS, like, sync even when the app is closed (not sure you can have > background services on the iPhone OS ?). > > As for the emacs side, anyone has any better idea than a cron job? I'm not > an experienced elisper (not sure I could even call myself an elisp > programmer, even though I want to :)) so not sure we could more easily do > something from inside emacs itself. > > Marcelo. > > > On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 12:59 PM, Matthew Jones wrote: > >> That's an excellent idea.... I've considered adding an auto >> synchronization mode to the Android version, Richard would need to comment >> on the iPhone version. It may be one of those things where it would >> automatically sync when launched. >> >> 73, >> Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB) >> http://matburt.net >> >> >> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa < >> celoserpa@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> On thing that I find could improve, though, is the workflow behind >>> org-mobile pull/push. Having to push from emacs and pull and then having to >>> update from the iPod/iPhone *manually* quickly becomes a hassle, and the >>> result is that I end up not using it as much as I wanted to. >>> >>> I'm thinking about setting up a cron to run emacs to evaluate >>> '(org-mobile-pull)(org-mobile-push)' every hour so I get "automatic" sync to >>> my iPod. We could also have an option on org-mobile to auto-sync too. Not >>> sure iPhone's OS architecture allows that, though. >>> >>> Marcelo. >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa < >>> celoserpa@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Get an account at dreamhost, a domain, and buy SSL from them. I did that >>>> and it works great for me (I have setup a subdomain of my main domain to >>>> point to a SSL secured IP, which in turn, points to a virtualhost setup on >>>> VPS @ dreamhost, this virtualhost has WebDAV enabled and is >>>> password-protected, naturally). >>>> >>>> If you are using Mac OSX, it's the easiest thing in the world. Just use >>>> finder to mount the WebDAV as a partition, and move this drive to the >>>> startup items so it gets connected everytime you boot. >>>> >>>> With Linux/Ubuntu, it's a little bit more CLI work, but you can get the >>>> very same effect (mount the drive, get it mounted automatically at >>>> boot-time) -- in both cases, just Google and you'll find plenty of articles. >>>> >>>> For Windows, I have no idea. Sorry. >>>> >>>> Marcelo. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Matthew Jones wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi David >>>>> >>>>> http://orgmode.org/org.html#Pulling-from-MobileOrg >>>>> >>>>> Currently you likely use org-mobile-push to put your files on the >>>>> remote server. You should be able to use org-mobile-pull for retrieval, is >>>>> this not the case? >>>>> >>>>> 73, >>>>> Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB) >>>>> http://matburt.net >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 12:12 PM, David Frascone wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I know it's a bit of an RTFM, but, I'm trying to figure out the best >>>>>> way to keep my org-mode in sync with my iPhone (Using MobileOrg). And, I'm >>>>>> VERY new to orgmode, and a bit new to emacs. I can easily do a one way sync >>>>>> (org-mode to somewhere, via html), but I'm looking for a better way (two way >>>>>> sync, like MobileOrg) >>>>>> >>>>>> I have dropbox, but it's not webdav. >>>>>> I also have an iDisk, but it's a pain to keep that synched. I simply >>>>>> don't like the mac synching. >>>>>> I signed up for the other webdav account, but, I'm not sure if that's >>>>>> the best way to do it. >>>>>> >>>>>> I can easily use ssh to keep my org files somewhere. But, that >>>>>> doesn't help the reverse path. >>>>>> I run my own apache at home, so, I suppose I could install webdav >>>>>> there, but I have concerns about security, having never messed with it. >>>>>> >>>>>> So, I guess my questions are: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> What's the simplest method that's possibly insecure (i.e. some random >>>>>> webdav provider)? >>>>>> And, what's the simplest method that's secure? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks in advance, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -Dave >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list >>>>>> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. >>>>>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org >>>>>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list >>>>> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. >>>>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org >>>>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > --0016364edbe0558fee0484ee297f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You could tie the push to the save hook fairly easily I would imagine.
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73,
Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB)
http://matburt.net


On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Marcelo= de Moraes Serpa <celoserpa@gmail.com> wrote:
Cool!

Auto-sync on start would be simple enough to implement (I thin= k) and would help a lot, although I was thinking on a more deeply integrati= on with the underlying OS, like, sync even when the app is closed (not sure= you can have background services on the iPhone OS ?).

As for the emacs side, anyone has any better idea than a cron job? I= 9;m not an experienced elisper (not sure I could even call myself an elisp = programmer, even though I want to :)) so not sure we could more easily do s= omething from inside emacs itself.

Marcelo.


On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 12:59 PM, Matthew Jones <bsdmatbur= t@gmail.com> wrote:
That's an excellent idea.... I've considered adding an auto synchro= nization mode to the Android version, Richard would need to comment on the = iPhone version. =A0It may be one of those things where it would automatical= ly sync when launched.

73,
Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB)
http://matburt.net


On Fri, Apr 2= 3, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa <celoserpa@gmail.com&g= t; wrote:
On thing that I find could improve, though, is the workflow behind org-mobi= le pull/push. Having to push from emacs and pull and then having to update = from the iPod/iPhone *manually* quickly becomes a hassle, and the result is= that I end up not using it as much as I wanted to.

I'm thinking about setting up a cron to run emacs to evaluate '= (org-mobile-pull)(org-mobile-push)' every hour so I get "automatic= " sync to my iPod. We could also have an option on org-mobile to auto-= sync too. Not sure iPhone's OS architecture allows that, though.

Marcelo.


= On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa <celoserpa@gma= il.com> wrote:
Get an account at dreamhost, a domain, and buy SSL from them. I did that an= d it works great for me (I have setup a subdomain of my main domain to poin= t to a SSL secured IP, which in turn, points to a virtualhost setup on VPS = @ dreamhost, this virtualhost has WebDAV enabled and is password-protected,= naturally).

If you are using Mac OSX, it's the easiest thing in the world. Just= use finder to mount the WebDAV as a partition, and move this drive to the = startup items so it gets connected everytime you boot.

With Linux/Ub= untu, it's a little bit more CLI work, but you can get the very same ef= fect (mount the drive, get it mounted automatically at boot-time) -- in bot= h cases, just Google and you'll find plenty of articles.

For Windows, I have no idea. Sorry.

Marc= elo.


On Fri, = Apr 23, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Matthew Jones <bsdmatburt@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi David

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Currently you likely use org-mobile-push to put your fi= les on the remote server. =A0You should be able to use org-mobile-pull for = retrieval, is this not the case?

73,
Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB)
http://matburt.net


On Thu, Apr 22, 201= 0 at 12:12 PM, David Frascone <dave@frascone.com> wrote:
<= /div>

I know it's a bit of an RTFM, but, I'm trying to figure out the= best way to keep my org-mode in sync with my iPhone (Using MobileOrg).=A0 = And, I'm VERY new to orgmode, and a bit new to emacs.=A0 I can easily d= o a one way sync (org-mode to somewhere, via html), but I'm looking for= a better way (two way sync, like MobileOrg)

I have dropbox, but it's not webdav.
I also have an iDisk, but i= t's a pain to keep that synched.=A0 I simply don't like the mac syn= ching.
I signed up for the other webdav account, but, I'm not sure i= f that's the best way to do it.

I can easily use ssh to keep my org files somewhere.=A0 But, that doesn= 't help the reverse path.
I run my own apache at home, so, I suppose= I could install webdav there, but I have concerns about security, having n= ever messed with it.

So, I guess my questions are:


What's the simplest method= that's possibly insecure (i.e. some random webdav provider)?
And, w= hat's the simplest method that's secure?



Thanks in a= dvance,


-Dave

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