Mobile Org Sharing Questions

Mobile Org Sharing Questions

[David Frascone]

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I know it's a bit of an RTFM, but, I'm trying to figure out the best way to
keep my org-mode in sync with my iPhone (Using MobileOrg).  And, I'm VERY
new to orgmode, and a bit new to emacs.  I can easily do a one way sync
(org-mode to somewhere, via html), but I'm looking for a better way (two way
sync, like MobileOrg)

I have dropbox, but it's not webdav.
I also have an iDisk, but it's a pain to keep that synched.  I simply don't
like the mac synching.
I signed up for the other webdav account, but, I'm not sure if that's the
best way to do it.

I can easily use ssh to keep my org files somewhere.  But, that doesn't help
the reverse path.
I run my own apache at home, so, I suppose I could install webdav there, but
I have concerns about security, having never messed with it.

So, I guess my questions are:


What's the simplest method that's possibly insecure (i.e. some random webdav
provider)?
And, what's the simplest method that's secure?



Thanks in advance,


-Dave

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Re: Mobile Org Sharing Questions

[Matthew Jones]

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Hi David

http://orgmode.org/org.html#Pulling-from-MobileOrg

Currently you likely use org-mobile-push to put your files on the remote
server.  You should be able to use org-mobile-pull for retrieval, is this
not the case?

73,
Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB)
http://matburt.net


On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 12:12 PM, David Frascone <dave@frascone.com> wrote:

>
> I know it's a bit of an RTFM, but, I'm trying to figure out the best way to
> keep my org-mode in sync with my iPhone (Using MobileOrg).  And, I'm VERY
> new to orgmode, and a bit new to emacs.  I can easily do a one way sync
> (org-mode to somewhere, via html), but I'm looking for a better way (two way
> sync, like MobileOrg)
>
> I have dropbox, but it's not webdav.
> I also have an iDisk, but it's a pain to keep that synched.  I simply don't
> like the mac synching.
> I signed up for the other webdav account, but, I'm not sure if that's the
> best way to do it.
>
> I can easily use ssh to keep my org files somewhere.  But, that doesn't
> help the reverse path.
> I run my own apache at home, so, I suppose I could install webdav there,
> but I have concerns about security, having never messed with it.
>
> So, I guess my questions are:
>
>
> What's the simplest method that's possibly insecure (i.e. some random
> webdav provider)?
> And, what's the simplest method that's secure?
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
>
> -Dave
>
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Re: Mobile Org Sharing Questions

[Marcelo de Moraes Serpa]

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Get an account at dreamhost, a domain, and buy SSL from them. I did that and
it works great for me (I have setup a subdomain of my main domain to point
to a SSL secured IP, which in turn, points to a virtualhost setup on VPS @
dreamhost, this virtualhost has WebDAV enabled and is password-protected,
naturally).

If you are using Mac OSX, it's the easiest thing in the world. Just use
finder to mount the WebDAV as a partition, and move this drive to the
startup items so it gets connected everytime you boot.

With Linux/Ubuntu, it's a little bit more CLI work, but you can get the very
same effect (mount the drive, get it mounted automatically at boot-time) --
in both cases, just Google and you'll find plenty of articles.

For Windows, I have no idea. Sorry.

Marcelo.

On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Matthew Jones <bsdmatburt@gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi David
>
> http://orgmode.org/org.html#Pulling-from-MobileOrg
>
> Currently you likely use org-mobile-push to put your files on the remote
> server.  You should be able to use org-mobile-pull for retrieval, is this
> not the case?
>
> 73,
> Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB)
> http://matburt.net
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 12:12 PM, David Frascone <dave@frascone.com>wrote:
>
>>
>> I know it's a bit of an RTFM, but, I'm trying to figure out the best way
>> to keep my org-mode in sync with my iPhone (Using MobileOrg).  And, I'm VERY
>> new to orgmode, and a bit new to emacs.  I can easily do a one way sync
>> (org-mode to somewhere, via html), but I'm looking for a better way (two way
>> sync, like MobileOrg)
>>
>> I have dropbox, but it's not webdav.
>> I also have an iDisk, but it's a pain to keep that synched.  I simply
>> don't like the mac synching.
>> I signed up for the other webdav account, but, I'm not sure if that's the
>> best way to do it.
>>
>> I can easily use ssh to keep my org files somewhere.  But, that doesn't
>> help the reverse path.
>> I run my own apache at home, so, I suppose I could install webdav there,
>> but I have concerns about security, having never messed with it.
>>
>> So, I guess my questions are:
>>
>>
>> What's the simplest method that's possibly insecure (i.e. some random
>> webdav provider)?
>> And, what's the simplest method that's secure?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>>
>> -Dave
>>
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>>
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Re: Mobile Org Sharing Questions

[Marcelo de Moraes Serpa]

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On thing that I find could improve, though, is the workflow behind
org-mobile pull/push. Having to push from emacs and pull and then having to
update from the iPod/iPhone *manually* quickly becomes a hassle, and the
result is that I end up not using it as much as I wanted to.

I'm thinking about setting up a cron to run emacs to evaluate
'(org-mobile-pull)(org-mobile-push)' every hour so I get "automatic" sync to
my iPod. We could also have an option on org-mobile to auto-sync too. Not
sure iPhone's OS architecture allows that, though.

Marcelo.

On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa <
celoserpa@gmail.com> wrote:

> Get an account at dreamhost, a domain, and buy SSL from them. I did that
> and it works great for me (I have setup a subdomain of my main domain to
> point to a SSL secured IP, which in turn, points to a virtualhost setup on
> VPS @ dreamhost, this virtualhost has WebDAV enabled and is
> password-protected, naturally).
>
> If you are using Mac OSX, it's the easiest thing in the world. Just use
> finder to mount the WebDAV as a partition, and move this drive to the
> startup items so it gets connected everytime you boot.
>
> With Linux/Ubuntu, it's a little bit more CLI work, but you can get the
> very same effect (mount the drive, get it mounted automatically at
> boot-time) -- in both cases, just Google and you'll find plenty of articles.
>
> For Windows, I have no idea. Sorry.
>
> Marcelo.
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Matthew Jones <bsdmatburt@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi David
>>
>> http://orgmode.org/org.html#Pulling-from-MobileOrg
>>
>> Currently you likely use org-mobile-push to put your files on the remote
>> server.  You should be able to use org-mobile-pull for retrieval, is this
>> not the case?
>>
>> 73,
>> Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB)
>> http://matburt.net
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 12:12 PM, David Frascone <dave@frascone.com>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I know it's a bit of an RTFM, but, I'm trying to figure out the best way
>>> to keep my org-mode in sync with my iPhone (Using MobileOrg).  And, I'm VERY
>>> new to orgmode, and a bit new to emacs.  I can easily do a one way sync
>>> (org-mode to somewhere, via html), but I'm looking for a better way (two way
>>> sync, like MobileOrg)
>>>
>>> I have dropbox, but it's not webdav.
>>> I also have an iDisk, but it's a pain to keep that synched.  I simply
>>> don't like the mac synching.
>>> I signed up for the other webdav account, but, I'm not sure if that's the
>>> best way to do it.
>>>
>>> I can easily use ssh to keep my org files somewhere.  But, that doesn't
>>> help the reverse path.
>>> I run my own apache at home, so, I suppose I could install webdav there,
>>> but I have concerns about security, having never messed with it.
>>>
>>> So, I guess my questions are:
>>>
>>>
>>> What's the simplest method that's possibly insecure (i.e. some random
>>> webdav provider)?
>>> And, what's the simplest method that's secure?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>
>>>
>>> -Dave
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list
>>> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
>>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
>>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
>>>
>>>
>>
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Re: Mobile Org Sharing Questions

[Matthew Jones]

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That's an excellent idea.... I've considered adding an auto synchronization
mode to the Android version, Richard would need to comment on the iPhone
version.  It may be one of those things where it would automatically sync
when launched.

73,
Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB)
http://matburt.net


On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa <
celoserpa@gmail.com> wrote:

> On thing that I find could improve, though, is the workflow behind
> org-mobile pull/push. Having to push from emacs and pull and then having to
> update from the iPod/iPhone *manually* quickly becomes a hassle, and the
> result is that I end up not using it as much as I wanted to.
>
> I'm thinking about setting up a cron to run emacs to evaluate
> '(org-mobile-pull)(org-mobile-push)' every hour so I get "automatic" sync to
> my iPod. We could also have an option on org-mobile to auto-sync too. Not
> sure iPhone's OS architecture allows that, though.
>
> Marcelo.
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa <
> celoserpa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Get an account at dreamhost, a domain, and buy SSL from them. I did that
>> and it works great for me (I have setup a subdomain of my main domain to
>> point to a SSL secured IP, which in turn, points to a virtualhost setup on
>> VPS @ dreamhost, this virtualhost has WebDAV enabled and is
>> password-protected, naturally).
>>
>> If you are using Mac OSX, it's the easiest thing in the world. Just use
>> finder to mount the WebDAV as a partition, and move this drive to the
>> startup items so it gets connected everytime you boot.
>>
>> With Linux/Ubuntu, it's a little bit more CLI work, but you can get the
>> very same effect (mount the drive, get it mounted automatically at
>> boot-time) -- in both cases, just Google and you'll find plenty of articles.
>>
>> For Windows, I have no idea. Sorry.
>>
>> Marcelo.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Matthew Jones <bsdmatburt@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi David
>>>
>>> http://orgmode.org/org.html#Pulling-from-MobileOrg
>>>
>>> Currently you likely use org-mobile-push to put your files on the remote
>>> server.  You should be able to use org-mobile-pull for retrieval, is this
>>> not the case?
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB)
>>> http://matburt.net
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 12:12 PM, David Frascone <dave@frascone.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I know it's a bit of an RTFM, but, I'm trying to figure out the best way
>>>> to keep my org-mode in sync with my iPhone (Using MobileOrg).  And, I'm VERY
>>>> new to orgmode, and a bit new to emacs.  I can easily do a one way sync
>>>> (org-mode to somewhere, via html), but I'm looking for a better way (two way
>>>> sync, like MobileOrg)
>>>>
>>>> I have dropbox, but it's not webdav.
>>>> I also have an iDisk, but it's a pain to keep that synched.  I simply
>>>> don't like the mac synching.
>>>> I signed up for the other webdav account, but, I'm not sure if that's
>>>> the best way to do it.
>>>>
>>>> I can easily use ssh to keep my org files somewhere.  But, that doesn't
>>>> help the reverse path.
>>>> I run my own apache at home, so, I suppose I could install webdav there,
>>>> but I have concerns about security, having never messed with it.
>>>>
>>>> So, I guess my questions are:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What's the simplest method that's possibly insecure (i.e. some random
>>>> webdav provider)?
>>>> And, what's the simplest method that's secure?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Dave
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list
>>>> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
>>>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
>>>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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Re: Mobile Org Sharing Questions

[Marcelo de Moraes Serpa]

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Cool!

Auto-sync on start would be simple enough to implement (I think) and would
help a lot, although I was thinking on a more deeply integration with the
underlying OS, like, sync even when the app is closed (not sure you can have
background services on the iPhone OS ?).

As for the emacs side, anyone has any better idea than a cron job? I'm not
an experienced elisper (not sure I could even call myself an elisp
programmer, even though I want to :)) so not sure we could more easily do
something from inside emacs itself.

Marcelo.

On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 12:59 PM, Matthew Jones <bsdmatburt@gmail.com>wrote:

> That's an excellent idea.... I've considered adding an auto synchronization
> mode to the Android version, Richard would need to comment on the iPhone
> version.  It may be one of those things where it would automatically sync
> when launched.
>
> 73,
> Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB)
> http://matburt.net
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa <
> celoserpa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On thing that I find could improve, though, is the workflow behind
>> org-mobile pull/push. Having to push from emacs and pull and then having to
>> update from the iPod/iPhone *manually* quickly becomes a hassle, and the
>> result is that I end up not using it as much as I wanted to.
>>
>> I'm thinking about setting up a cron to run emacs to evaluate
>> '(org-mobile-pull)(org-mobile-push)' every hour so I get "automatic" sync to
>> my iPod. We could also have an option on org-mobile to auto-sync too. Not
>> sure iPhone's OS architecture allows that, though.
>>
>> Marcelo.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa <
>> celoserpa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Get an account at dreamhost, a domain, and buy SSL from them. I did that
>>> and it works great for me (I have setup a subdomain of my main domain to
>>> point to a SSL secured IP, which in turn, points to a virtualhost setup on
>>> VPS @ dreamhost, this virtualhost has WebDAV enabled and is
>>> password-protected, naturally).
>>>
>>> If you are using Mac OSX, it's the easiest thing in the world. Just use
>>> finder to mount the WebDAV as a partition, and move this drive to the
>>> startup items so it gets connected everytime you boot.
>>>
>>> With Linux/Ubuntu, it's a little bit more CLI work, but you can get the
>>> very same effect (mount the drive, get it mounted automatically at
>>> boot-time) -- in both cases, just Google and you'll find plenty of articles.
>>>
>>> For Windows, I have no idea. Sorry.
>>>
>>> Marcelo.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Matthew Jones <bsdmatburt@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi David
>>>>
>>>> http://orgmode.org/org.html#Pulling-from-MobileOrg
>>>>
>>>> Currently you likely use org-mobile-push to put your files on the remote
>>>> server.  You should be able to use org-mobile-pull for retrieval, is this
>>>> not the case?
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>> Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB)
>>>> http://matburt.net
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 12:12 PM, David Frascone <dave@frascone.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I know it's a bit of an RTFM, but, I'm trying to figure out the best
>>>>> way to keep my org-mode in sync with my iPhone (Using MobileOrg).  And, I'm
>>>>> VERY new to orgmode, and a bit new to emacs.  I can easily do a one way sync
>>>>> (org-mode to somewhere, via html), but I'm looking for a better way (two way
>>>>> sync, like MobileOrg)
>>>>>
>>>>> I have dropbox, but it's not webdav.
>>>>> I also have an iDisk, but it's a pain to keep that synched.  I simply
>>>>> don't like the mac synching.
>>>>> I signed up for the other webdav account, but, I'm not sure if that's
>>>>> the best way to do it.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can easily use ssh to keep my org files somewhere.  But, that doesn't
>>>>> help the reverse path.
>>>>> I run my own apache at home, so, I suppose I could install webdav
>>>>> there, but I have concerns about security, having never messed with it.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, I guess my questions are:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What's the simplest method that's possibly insecure (i.e. some random
>>>>> webdav provider)?
>>>>> And, what's the simplest method that's secure?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -Dave
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list
>>>>> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
>>>>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
>>>>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
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Re: Mobile Org Sharing Questions

[Matthew Jones]

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You could tie the push to the save hook fairly easily I would imagine.

73,
Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB)
http://matburt.net


On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa <
celoserpa@gmail.com> wrote:

> Cool!
>
> Auto-sync on start would be simple enough to implement (I think) and would
> help a lot, although I was thinking on a more deeply integration with the
> underlying OS, like, sync even when the app is closed (not sure you can have
> background services on the iPhone OS ?).
>
> As for the emacs side, anyone has any better idea than a cron job? I'm not
> an experienced elisper (not sure I could even call myself an elisp
> programmer, even though I want to :)) so not sure we could more easily do
> something from inside emacs itself.
>
> Marcelo.
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 12:59 PM, Matthew Jones <bsdmatburt@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> That's an excellent idea.... I've considered adding an auto
>> synchronization mode to the Android version, Richard would need to comment
>> on the iPhone version.  It may be one of those things where it would
>> automatically sync when launched.
>>
>> 73,
>> Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB)
>> http://matburt.net
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa <
>> celoserpa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On thing that I find could improve, though, is the workflow behind
>>> org-mobile pull/push. Having to push from emacs and pull and then having to
>>> update from the iPod/iPhone *manually* quickly becomes a hassle, and the
>>> result is that I end up not using it as much as I wanted to.
>>>
>>> I'm thinking about setting up a cron to run emacs to evaluate
>>> '(org-mobile-pull)(org-mobile-push)' every hour so I get "automatic" sync to
>>> my iPod. We could also have an option on org-mobile to auto-sync too. Not
>>> sure iPhone's OS architecture allows that, though.
>>>
>>> Marcelo.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa <
>>> celoserpa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Get an account at dreamhost, a domain, and buy SSL from them. I did that
>>>> and it works great for me (I have setup a subdomain of my main domain to
>>>> point to a SSL secured IP, which in turn, points to a virtualhost setup on
>>>> VPS @ dreamhost, this virtualhost has WebDAV enabled and is
>>>> password-protected, naturally).
>>>>
>>>> If you are using Mac OSX, it's the easiest thing in the world. Just use
>>>> finder to mount the WebDAV as a partition, and move this drive to the
>>>> startup items so it gets connected everytime you boot.
>>>>
>>>> With Linux/Ubuntu, it's a little bit more CLI work, but you can get the
>>>> very same effect (mount the drive, get it mounted automatically at
>>>> boot-time) -- in both cases, just Google and you'll find plenty of articles.
>>>>
>>>> For Windows, I have no idea. Sorry.
>>>>
>>>> Marcelo.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Matthew Jones <bsdmatburt@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi David
>>>>>
>>>>> http://orgmode.org/org.html#Pulling-from-MobileOrg
>>>>>
>>>>> Currently you likely use org-mobile-push to put your files on the
>>>>> remote server.  You should be able to use org-mobile-pull for retrieval, is
>>>>> this not the case?
>>>>>
>>>>> 73,
>>>>> Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB)
>>>>> http://matburt.net
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 12:12 PM, David Frascone <dave@frascone.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know it's a bit of an RTFM, but, I'm trying to figure out the best
>>>>>> way to keep my org-mode in sync with my iPhone (Using MobileOrg).  And, I'm
>>>>>> VERY new to orgmode, and a bit new to emacs.  I can easily do a one way sync
>>>>>> (org-mode to somewhere, via html), but I'm looking for a better way (two way
>>>>>> sync, like MobileOrg)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have dropbox, but it's not webdav.
>>>>>> I also have an iDisk, but it's a pain to keep that synched.  I simply
>>>>>> don't like the mac synching.
>>>>>> I signed up for the other webdav account, but, I'm not sure if that's
>>>>>> the best way to do it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can easily use ssh to keep my org files somewhere.  But, that
>>>>>> doesn't help the reverse path.
>>>>>> I run my own apache at home, so, I suppose I could install webdav
>>>>>> there, but I have concerns about security, having never messed with it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, I guess my questions are:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What's the simplest method that's possibly insecure (i.e. some random
>>>>>> webdav provider)?
>>>>>> And, what's the simplest method that's secure?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Dave
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list
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>>>>>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
>>>>>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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Re: Mobile Org Sharing Questions

[Greg Newman]

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You don't really need a cron to do the push/pull thing.
What I have in my configs is the following.  You can add org-mobile-pull to
it to if you'd like:

(run-at-time "00:59" 3600 'org-mobile-push)

This runs a push for me every hour.  If I'm not at my mac I still know that
within the hour
I'll have an updated agenda on my iPhone.




On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 5:31 PM, Matthew Jones <bsdmatburt@gmail.com> wrote:

> You could tie the push to the save hook fairly easily I would imagine.
>
> 73,
> Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB)
> http://matburt.net
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa <
> celoserpa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Cool!
>>
>> Auto-sync on start would be simple enough to implement (I think) and would
>> help a lot, although I was thinking on a more deeply integration with the
>> underlying OS, like, sync even when the app is closed (not sure you can have
>> background services on the iPhone OS ?).
>>
>> As for the emacs side, anyone has any better idea than a cron job? I'm not
>> an experienced elisper (not sure I could even call myself an elisp
>> programmer, even though I want to :)) so not sure we could more easily do
>> something from inside emacs itself.
>>
>> Marcelo.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 12:59 PM, Matthew Jones <bsdmatburt@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> That's an excellent idea.... I've considered adding an auto
>>> synchronization mode to the Android version, Richard would need to comment
>>> on the iPhone version.  It may be one of those things where it would
>>> automatically sync when launched.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB)
>>> http://matburt.net
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa <
>>> celoserpa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On thing that I find could improve, though, is the workflow behind
>>>> org-mobile pull/push. Having to push from emacs and pull and then having to
>>>> update from the iPod/iPhone *manually* quickly becomes a hassle, and the
>>>> result is that I end up not using it as much as I wanted to.
>>>>
>>>> I'm thinking about setting up a cron to run emacs to evaluate
>>>> '(org-mobile-pull)(org-mobile-push)' every hour so I get "automatic" sync to
>>>> my iPod. We could also have an option on org-mobile to auto-sync too. Not
>>>> sure iPhone's OS architecture allows that, though.
>>>>
>>>> Marcelo.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa <
>>>> celoserpa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Get an account at dreamhost, a domain, and buy SSL from them. I did
>>>>> that and it works great for me (I have setup a subdomain of my main domain
>>>>> to point to a SSL secured IP, which in turn, points to a virtualhost setup
>>>>> on VPS @ dreamhost, this virtualhost has WebDAV enabled and is
>>>>> password-protected, naturally).
>>>>>
>>>>> If you are using Mac OSX, it's the easiest thing in the world. Just use
>>>>> finder to mount the WebDAV as a partition, and move this drive to the
>>>>> startup items so it gets connected everytime you boot.
>>>>>
>>>>> With Linux/Ubuntu, it's a little bit more CLI work, but you can get the
>>>>> very same effect (mount the drive, get it mounted automatically at
>>>>> boot-time) -- in both cases, just Google and you'll find plenty of articles.
>>>>>
>>>>> For Windows, I have no idea. Sorry.
>>>>>
>>>>> Marcelo.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Matthew Jones <bsdmatburt@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi David
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://orgmode.org/org.html#Pulling-from-MobileOrg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Currently you likely use org-mobile-push to put your files on the
>>>>>> remote server.  You should be able to use org-mobile-pull for retrieval, is
>>>>>> this not the case?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 73,
>>>>>> Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB)
>>>>>> http://matburt.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 12:12 PM, David Frascone <dave@frascone.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I know it's a bit of an RTFM, but, I'm trying to figure out the best
>>>>>>> way to keep my org-mode in sync with my iPhone (Using MobileOrg).  And, I'm
>>>>>>> VERY new to orgmode, and a bit new to emacs.  I can easily do a one way sync
>>>>>>> (org-mode to somewhere, via html), but I'm looking for a better way (two way
>>>>>>> sync, like MobileOrg)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have dropbox, but it's not webdav.
>>>>>>> I also have an iDisk, but it's a pain to keep that synched.  I simply
>>>>>>> don't like the mac synching.
>>>>>>> I signed up for the other webdav account, but, I'm not sure if that's
>>>>>>> the best way to do it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I can easily use ssh to keep my org files somewhere.  But, that
>>>>>>> doesn't help the reverse path.
>>>>>>> I run my own apache at home, so, I suppose I could install webdav
>>>>>>> there, but I have concerns about security, having never messed with it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, I guess my questions are:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What's the simplest method that's possibly insecure (i.e. some random
>>>>>>> webdav provider)?
>>>>>>> And, what's the simplest method that's secure?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Dave
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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Re: Mobile Org Sharing Questions

[Marcelo de Moraes Serpa]

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Here's what I did:

(defun org-mobile-pullpush nil nil (org-mobile-pull)
                                    (org-mobile-push))


(run-at-time "00:59" 3600 'org-mobile-pullpush)

This way, if I had anything on the mobile device, I get it merged locally
and then pushed back to mobile. Didn't use it extensively, but from what I
could see, works fine.

Marcelo.

On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 6:38 PM, Greg Newman <gregoryjnewman@gmail.com>wrote:

> You don't really need a cron to do the push/pull thing.
> What I have in my configs is the following.  You can add org-mobile-pull to
> it to if you'd like:
>
> (run-at-time "00:59" 3600 'org-mobile-push)
>
> This runs a push for me every hour.  If I'm not at my mac I still know that
> within the hour
> I'll have an updated agenda on my iPhone.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 5:31 PM, Matthew Jones <bsdmatburt@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> You could tie the push to the save hook fairly easily I would imagine.
>>
>> 73,
>> Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB)
>> http://matburt.net
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa <
>> celoserpa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Cool!
>>>
>>> Auto-sync on start would be simple enough to implement (I think) and
>>> would help a lot, although I was thinking on a more deeply integration with
>>> the underlying OS, like, sync even when the app is closed (not sure you can
>>> have background services on the iPhone OS ?).
>>>
>>> As for the emacs side, anyone has any better idea than a cron job? I'm
>>> not an experienced elisper (not sure I could even call myself an elisp
>>> programmer, even though I want to :)) so not sure we could more easily do
>>> something from inside emacs itself.
>>>
>>> Marcelo.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 12:59 PM, Matthew Jones <bsdmatburt@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> That's an excellent idea.... I've considered adding an auto
>>>> synchronization mode to the Android version, Richard would need to comment
>>>> on the iPhone version.  It may be one of those things where it would
>>>> automatically sync when launched.
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>> Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB)
>>>> http://matburt.net
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa <
>>>> celoserpa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On thing that I find could improve, though, is the workflow behind
>>>>> org-mobile pull/push. Having to push from emacs and pull and then having to
>>>>> update from the iPod/iPhone *manually* quickly becomes a hassle, and the
>>>>> result is that I end up not using it as much as I wanted to.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm thinking about setting up a cron to run emacs to evaluate
>>>>> '(org-mobile-pull)(org-mobile-push)' every hour so I get "automatic" sync to
>>>>> my iPod. We could also have an option on org-mobile to auto-sync too. Not
>>>>> sure iPhone's OS architecture allows that, though.
>>>>>
>>>>> Marcelo.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa <
>>>>> celoserpa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Get an account at dreamhost, a domain, and buy SSL from them. I did
>>>>>> that and it works great for me (I have setup a subdomain of my main domain
>>>>>> to point to a SSL secured IP, which in turn, points to a virtualhost setup
>>>>>> on VPS @ dreamhost, this virtualhost has WebDAV enabled and is
>>>>>> password-protected, naturally).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you are using Mac OSX, it's the easiest thing in the world. Just
>>>>>> use finder to mount the WebDAV as a partition, and move this drive to the
>>>>>> startup items so it gets connected everytime you boot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With Linux/Ubuntu, it's a little bit more CLI work, but you can get
>>>>>> the very same effect (mount the drive, get it mounted automatically at
>>>>>> boot-time) -- in both cases, just Google and you'll find plenty of articles.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For Windows, I have no idea. Sorry.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Marcelo.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Matthew Jones <bsdmatburt@gmail.com
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi David
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://orgmode.org/org.html#Pulling-from-MobileOrg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Currently you likely use org-mobile-push to put your files on the
>>>>>>> remote server.  You should be able to use org-mobile-pull for retrieval, is
>>>>>>> this not the case?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 73,
>>>>>>> Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB)
>>>>>>> http://matburt.net
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 12:12 PM, David Frascone <dave@frascone.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I know it's a bit of an RTFM, but, I'm trying to figure out the best
>>>>>>>> way to keep my org-mode in sync with my iPhone (Using MobileOrg).  And, I'm
>>>>>>>> VERY new to orgmode, and a bit new to emacs.  I can easily do a one way sync
>>>>>>>> (org-mode to somewhere, via html), but I'm looking for a better way (two way
>>>>>>>> sync, like MobileOrg)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have dropbox, but it's not webdav.
>>>>>>>> I also have an iDisk, but it's a pain to keep that synched.  I
>>>>>>>> simply don't like the mac synching.
>>>>>>>> I signed up for the other webdav account, but, I'm not sure if
>>>>>>>> that's the best way to do it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I can easily use ssh to keep my org files somewhere.  But, that
>>>>>>>> doesn't help the reverse path.
>>>>>>>> I run my own apache at home, so, I suppose I could install webdav
>>>>>>>> there, but I have concerns about security, having never messed with it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So, I guess my questions are:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What's the simplest method that's possibly insecure (i.e. some
>>>>>>>> random webdav provider)?
>>>>>>>> And, what's the simplest method that's secure?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Dave
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list
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